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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 11:34
The internet is an obvious surveillance tool. I'd be surprised if any government didn't use it to keep an eye on potential 'subversives' Why wouldn't they?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 11:36
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Maybe it is a police state after all.  Be careful what you write folks..even in jest.



"A man who was found guilty of writing a message of a 'menacing nature'..."

Yeah that's a bastion of freedom you guys have going over there.


Every day Britain seems to become more horrifically oppressive. I keep seeing stories about people being arrested for speaking over there. It's a shame because it's such a lovely country, with such an interesting culture.
keep seeing? those must be the stories they don't allow us to see.Cry


Didn't you see that article a couple weeks back about the guy who arrested for what he was posting on facebook?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 11:53
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Maybe it is a police state after all.  Be careful what you write folks..even in jest.



"A man who was found guilty of writing a message of a 'menacing nature'..."

Yeah that's a bastion of freedom you guys have going over there.


Every day Britain seems to become more horrifically oppressive. I keep seeing stories about people being arrested for speaking over there. It's a shame because it's such a lovely country, with such an interesting culture.
keep seeing? those must be the stories they don't allow us to see.Cry


Didn't you see that article a couple weeks back about the guy who arrested for what he was posting on facebook?
Yup. so, that's two. There was that case of the girl prosecuted for internet bullying last year too, but she was bullying the same victim IRL too, but anyway, that's three...
 
So I repeat... keep seeing?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:03
Do we have to document every occurrence we've seen and calculate an exact frequency here?




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:06
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Do we have to document every occurrence we've seen and calculate an exact frequency here?





It would eradicate hearsay and "I thinks".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:12
Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:13
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.


I agree.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:14
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Do we have to document every occurrence we've seen and calculate an exact frequency here?





It would eradicate hearsay and "I thinks".


Why would we want to eradicate hearsay? Any news story is hearsay.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:15
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.


I agree.

I also agree. I'm alarmed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:19
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.


I agree.

I also agree. I'm alarmed.
Tut-tut! Ian, You've skipped "slightly concerned" and "mildly worried" (of course the latter being good enough reason for a stiffly worded letter to The Times)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:23
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.


I agree.

I also agree. I'm alarmed.
Tut-tut! Ian, You've skipped "slightly concerned" and "mildly worried" (of course the latter being good enough reason for a stiffly worded letter to The Times)

Of course you are right. I'm not alarmed.......a bit annoyed is nearer the mark.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:23
What is the deal with so many people from England being named Ian? I don't think I've ever met an American with that name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:25
It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.

Edited by Dean - November 12 2010 at 12:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:27
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.

That is right Dean and you could have added Jan and that I'm not from England.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:28
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.


Wow, I didn't know that. I'm quite interested in linguistics and knew about the others, but not Ian. Very interesting, thank you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:29
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.

That is right Dean and you could have added Jan and that I'm not from England.


Wales, then. My apologies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:32
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.

That is right Dean and you could have added Jan and that I'm not from England.


Wales, then. My apologies.

That's fine honestly.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:51
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Personally, I think three cases of being arrested for speech is sufficient cause for alarm.


It's the thin end of the wedge. Over time you'll see a lot more of this. What will change is what constitutes 'free speech'

The transition will be a very slow one, so by the time we get to arresting people for having certain views, most people will be happy for those expressing those views to be arrested. Those who object to it, will be widely regarded as lunatics.



Edited by Blacksword - November 12 2010 at 12:53
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:55
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the Gaelic form of John - just as Ivan, Juan, Jean and Sean are "John" in other languages.

That is right Dean and you could have added Jan and that I'm not from England.


Wales, then. My apologies.

That's fine honestly.Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2010 at 12:57
I used to frequent a forum with a lot of Englishmen, and they would always get touchy when I referred to them as British because they didn't like being lumped in with Wales. It seems I just can't win. Ouch
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