And now, Transatlantic.

Check 'em out. All 3 albums are great and well-worth your time and money. I caught them in Philly - the best concert I've ever been to! 

darkshade wrote: rushfan4 wrote:   Released today. getting it (hopefully) tomorrow!

Hi,

moshkito wrote: Hi,   I just heard SMTP again ... and ... you know what? I think it would be better if it had a different drummer. One with a "feel" for music instead of anything else. The guy can only do one thing with his drums ... and nothing else!   Basically not impressed.   It's nice ... so what?

Snow Dog wrote: For Portnoys firts atttempt at a full Prog Band i thinbk it's a pretty good attempt. You see Mosh, it's a learning process. On the second album he is much better. Althougth he is excellent on the first too.

 

rod65 wrote: Get Live in Europe. The Abby Road Medley in Suite Charlotte Pike alone is worth twice the price of the album.

Pornoy is quite good on this DVD, I must say.  I agree that on the first TA, he seems like the only member that is out of place.  Still great drumming, but not necessarily appropriate for the music.  He improved greatly on the next album, and for Whirlwind I think he did an excellent job.  I do agree with those who say his style is a bit limited though, as I don't think he'd be capable of playing jazz or even fusion type stuff (let alone post rock or truly mellow music in general).  But isn't that true of a lot of prog drummers?

Anyway, the DVD is excellent, everybody firing on all cylinders, great playing all around.  My biggest issue with Portnoy is his vocals........they do detract from the music in places where he is the only voice (not as bad when he does backing).

moshkito wrote: Snow Dog wrote: For Portnoys firts atttempt at a full Prog Band i thinbk it's a pretty good attempt. You see Mosh, it's a learning process. On the second album he is much better. Althougth he is excellent on the first too.   That music had some soft parts that Portnoy did not do well on ... he doesn't have the patience to stay there and has to get out as fast as possible, as if he were afraid to lose his count and where he was in the first place. In "progressive" the trick always was ... not so much about the count ... but how long you could go and have fun, before you hit that drum again ... but then, some drummers were not around the time of really great drums in rock music, and they have never tried to do a Moonie or a Bonzo, or a Moerlin ... because it takes talent, listening and dedication ... and FEEL of the music ... which was not defined well enough for him, which suggests that the stuff was added separatly, not with them playing together or someone would have said something.

Edited by Snow Dog - November 10 2010 at 09:46

Snow Dog wrote: moshkito wrote: Snow Dog wrote: For Portnoys firts atttempt at a full Prog Band i thinbk it's a pretty good attempt. You see Mosh, it's a learning process. On the second album he is much better. Althougth he is excellent on the first too.   That music had some soft parts that Portnoy did not do well on ... he doesn't have the patience to stay there and has to get out as fast as possible, as if he were afraid to lose his count and where he was in the first place. In "progressive" the trick always was ... not so much about the count ... but how long you could go and have fun, before you hit that drum again ... but then, some drummers were not around the time of really great drums in rock music, and they have never tried to do a Moonie or a Bonzo, or a Moerlin ... because it takes talent, listening and dedication ... and FEEL of the music ... which was not defined well enough for him, which suggests that the stuff was added separatly, not with them playing together or someone would have said something.   I think you possibly make a lot of stuff up because you feel it's the truth. Only one point I will answer though. Transatlantic play together when recording so that little theory just got shot down. Maybe the band isn't as demanding as you? I really don't know why I answer your posts actually. Its pointless.

I also love how Moshkito mentions Keith Moon, the busiest drummer EVER, as an example of conservative drumming   There was a guy who could not keep from doing a crazy drum fill for more than a measure or two.  Not saying he wasn't great, but really, I think in many way Portnoy is far more "tasteful" than Moon ever was.