For my Libertarian friends

I stopped giving "D's" about 10 years ago.  Its A, B, C, F now.

thellama73 wrote: I have a been away for a few days on account of my sister's wedding, but I want to comment on the "entitled student" phenomenon. When I was getting myt undergrad, I never skipped class, I studied hard for every test, and I repeatedly saw people skip out on doing any work for trivial reasons, only to have the professors offer them unlimited chances to pass the class anyway. It drove me crazy. I remember my first year Russian midterm only had about 50% attendance and the professor was said "Well, now I'm going to offer so many make up exams." Shocked, I suggested he just give them all zeroes. He looked at me like I had lost my mind and said "But then half the class would fail!" I'm glad there's at least one teacher (Shields) who enforces the rules. It's unfair to the people who actually do the work to do otherwise.

The T wrote: thellama73 wrote: I have a been away for a few days on account of my sister's wedding, but I want to comment on the "entitled student" phenomenon. When I was getting myt undergrad, I never skipped class, I studied hard for every test, and I repeatedly saw people skip out on doing any work for trivial reasons, only to have the professors offer them unlimited chances to pass the class anyway. It drove me crazy. I remember my first year Russian midterm only had about 50% attendance and the professor was said "Well, now I'm going to offer so many make up exams." Shocked, I suggested he just give them all zeroes. He looked at me like I had lost my mind and said "But then half the class would fail!" I'm glad there's at least one teacher (Shields) who enforces the rules. It's unfair to the people who actually do the work to do otherwise. You speak Russian you damn commie???

Know thy enemy, T.

They asked you if you were a communist, because communists are soulless, evil monsters, and we don't want soulless, evil monsters to be citizens. Seems simple enough to me.

Epignosis wrote: thellama73 wrote: I have a been away for a few days on account of my sister's wedding, but I want to comment on the "entitled student" phenomenon. When I was getting myt undergrad, I never skipped class, I studied hard for every test, and I repeatedly saw people skip out on doing any work for trivial reasons, only to have the professors offer them unlimited chances to pass the class anyway. It drove me crazy. I remember my first year Russian midterm only had about 50% attendance and the professor was said "Well, now I'm going to offer so many make up exams." Shocked, I suggested he just give them all zeroes. He looked at me like I had lost my mind and said "But then half the class would fail!" I'm glad there's at least one teacher (Shields) who enforces the rules. It's unfair to the people who actually do the work to do otherwise. I can't tell you how many classes I had where teachers / professors offered a virtually limitless supply of "extra credit" opportunities.  Inane things too, like word searches.

Yeah the thing is out of hand. It only hurts the student too. Then the students gets a passing grade, and moves from Class 101 to Class 201 and is completely lost from the beginning because they only passed 101 because of ridiculous EC projects which have little to do with the class.

It used to infuriate me when I would bust my ass, get a 100 on every test, and get the same grade at the end of the course as someone averaging a 79 because they participated, "showed a lot of effort", and did the cutsie extra credit projects the professors would give to students who were struggling.

Thank God my real classes didn't operate like that, or I probably would have dropped out. 

Trademark wrote: Do you like Dream Theater (Automatic disqualification)

Edited by Henry Plainview - November 08 2010 at 11:50

Trademark wrote: Are you less than 5 feet tall or more than 7 feet tall?I'm just in between... 5'11  Do you own a dog?A cat (two cats)... Have no place for a dog... yet...  What is your father's maiden name?Ehem... I'm not sure... He was wedded thrice and that just before his 18th birthday...  Do you have abnormally shaped toes?I have other abnormally shaped stuff here...  Have you ever peed outdoors?Actually, I seldom pee indoors...  What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?ehem... 20 mph? ? And the clincher: Do you like Dream Theater (Automatic disqualification) Yes, though nowehere near as much as I used to. They're still my favorite prog-metal band, but in the big scheme of music things, rock has fallen sharply in my taste-ladder...

Equality 7-2521 wrote: The T wrote: As the day of my citizenship test approaches (oh how that must annoy some libertarians, the government just making me one of you! ), in the application form there is a question "have you ever been a member of the communist party?". I have never been, but why is it any business of the government on this case?  There are also questions regarding membership, for people that were alive in that era, in the nazi party...   Actually what enrages me in the government giving a test to decide who and who is not a citizen. That question is disgraceful. You shouldn't answer it.

Trademark wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: The T wrote: As the day of my citizenship test approaches (oh how that must annoy some libertarians, the government just making me one of you! ), in the application form there is a question "have you ever been a member of the communist party?". I have never been, but why is it any business of the government on this case?  There are also questions regarding membership, for people that were alive in that era, in the nazi party...   Actually what enrages me in the government giving a test to decide who and who is not a citizen. That question is disgraceful. You shouldn't answer it. What should the requirements / qualifications be for citizenship in Libertopia?  Is it for sale, do you earn it, can you only be born with it? How does Libertopian citizenship work?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Epignosis wrote: thellama73 wrote: I have a been away for a few days on account of my sister's wedding, but I want to comment on the "entitled student" phenomenon. When I was getting myt undergrad, I never skipped class, I studied hard for every test, and I repeatedly saw people skip out on doing any work for trivial reasons, only to have the professors offer them unlimited chances to pass the class anyway. It drove me crazy. I remember my first year Russian midterm only had about 50% attendance and the professor was said "Well, now I'm going to offer so many make up exams." Shocked, I suggested he just give them all zeroes. He looked at me like I had lost my mind and said "But then half the class would fail!" I'm glad there's at least one teacher (Shields) who enforces the rules. It's unfair to the people who actually do the work to do otherwise. I can't tell you how many classes I had where teachers / professors offered a virtually limitless supply of "extra credit" opportunities.  Inane things too, like word searches. I typed up a fairly long elaboration that didn't post for some reason. Since I'm lazy: Yes BS extra credit isn't fait to students that bust their ass. It's also not helpful at all to the students who get the inflated grades.

It did post. 

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Epignosis wrote: thellama73 wrote: I have a been away for a few days on account of my sister's wedding, but I want to comment on the "entitled student" phenomenon. When I was getting myt undergrad, I never skipped class, I studied hard for every test, and I repeatedly saw people skip out on doing any work for trivial reasons, only to have the professors offer them unlimited chances to pass the class anyway. It drove me crazy. I remember my first year Russian midterm only had about 50% attendance and the professor was said "Well, now I'm going to offer so many make up exams." Shocked, I suggested he just give them all zeroes. He looked at me like I had lost my mind and said "But then half the class would fail!" I'm glad there's at least one teacher (Shields) who enforces the rules. It's unfair to the people who actually do the work to do otherwise. I can't tell you how many classes I had where teachers / professors offered a virtually limitless supply of "extra credit" opportunities.  Inane things too, like word searches. Yeah the thing is out of hand. It only hurts the student too. Then the students gets a passing grade, and moves from Class 101 to Class 201 and is completely lost from the beginning because they only passed 101 because of ridiculous EC projects which have little to do with the class. It used to infuriate me when I would bust my ass, get a 100 on every test, and get the same grade at the end of the course as someone averaging a 79 because they participated, "showed a lot of effort", and did the cutsie extra credit projects the professors would give to students who were struggling. Thank God my real classes didn't operate like that, or I probably would have dropped out.