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harmonium.ro 
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 Posted: November 07 2010 at 10:35 |
Oh and I can't understand how I forgot about The Fifth Element, my favourite spaghetti sci-fi. 
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:36 |
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I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:47 |
 Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me.
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:52 |
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:54 |
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows.
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:10 |
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
On reflection, I think my favorite actors are those are the least versatile- when it comes to men at any rate. My favorite actresses are the most versatile, I think.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:12 |
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
On reflection, I think my favorite actors are those are the least versatile- when it comes to men at any rate. My favorite actresses are the most versatile, I think.
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So, you're not a fan of Robert Downey Jr, Leo DiCaprio or Johnny Depp, I take it?
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:19 |
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
On reflection, I think my favorite actors are those are the least versatile- when it comes to men at any rate. My favorite actresses are the most versatile, I think.
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So, you're not a fan of Robert Downey Jr, Leo DiCaprio or Johnny Depp, I take it? |
Well, fan would be too strong a word. While I've never much liked Downey, Jr, I like DiCaprio and Depp quite a bit. Depp is phenomenal, but I think directors take advantage of his incredible versatility to a fault sometimes.
I'm looking at you, Burton.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:40 |
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
On reflection, I think my favorite actors are those are the least versatile- when it comes to men at any rate. My favorite actresses are the most versatile, I think.
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So, you're not a fan of Robert Downey Jr, Leo DiCaprio or Johnny Depp, I take it? |
Well, fan would be too strong a word. While I've never much liked Downey, Jr, I like DiCaprio and Depp quite a bit. Depp is phenomenal, but I think directors take advantage of his incredible versatility to a fault sometimes.
I'm looking at you, Burton.
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Like I've suggested before . . . I think if you watch Chaplin, then turn around and watch Tropic Thunder . . . you'd be crazy to not admit that Downey has talent. 
And yeah, Burton sometimes overuses Depp and the results aren't always is inspired as they possibly could be, but Depp loves working with him, so what are ya gonna do? lol
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:44 |
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
On reflection, I think my favorite actors are those are the least versatile- when it comes to men at any rate. My favorite actresses are the most versatile, I think.
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So, you're not a fan of Robert Downey Jr, Leo DiCaprio or Johnny Depp, I take it? |
Well, fan would be too strong a word. While I've never much liked Downey, Jr, I like DiCaprio and Depp quite a bit. Depp is phenomenal, but I think directors take advantage of his incredible versatility to a fault sometimes.
I'm looking at you, Burton.
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Like I've suggested before . . . I think if you watch Chaplin, then turn around and watch Tropic Thunder . . . you'd be crazy to not admit that Downey has talent.
And yeah, Burton sometimes overuses Depp and the results aren't always is inspired as they possibly could be, but Depp loves working with him, so what are ya gonna do? lol |
There's a difference between "talent" and "likability." I won't say Downey doesn't have talent. But I don't really like him as an actor- that's all. There are numerous actors who fall into that category. Same as music- sure bands can be talented, but it doesn't mean I care to listen to them.
For example, my wife says Jack Nicholson and Anthony Hopkins are great actors (I absolutely love both of them), but she can't stand either one of them.
As far as Burton goes, I loved his take on the chocolate factory, but Alice was epic fail from start to end.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:47 |
^ Well, I still think you'll enjoy Chaplin, regardless.
I can't say I really agree with what you said about talent vs. likability, either. For me, if an actor is believable and versatile in his roles, I like him. Period. I don't like hammy, shakespearean acting in cinema, because I think that's more of a skill that stage actors acquire, and not so much 'talent', as in their ability to disappear into the role. So for me, how talented the actor is and my enjoyability of his work are homogenous.
I agree on Alice. My uncle says it's one of the best films he's seen. He must be literally speaking in terms of sight, here, since the visuals are indeed pretty, but the film itself just lacks any individuality or memorability, in my view.
Edited by JLocke - November 07 2010 at 14:52
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:53 |
JLocke wrote:
I agree on Alice. My uncle says it's one of the best films he's seen. He must be literally speaking in terms of sight, here, since the visuals are indeed pretty, but the film itself just lacks any individuality or memorability, in my view. |
My problem is that it has nothing to do with the book, but just seems to be an excuse for Burton's (stellar) visuals. But as you note, visuals do not a great movie make.
I'm looking at you, Bay.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:00 |
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
I agree with both of you. Speaking of actors who play the same thing, the best example is De Niro in my opinion. He also shows that this doesn't really matter much. He's amazing. Speaking of versatility, I have to give it to Depp, yeah. He's the first and only actor who played this trick on me: he got into the character's skin so well that I couldn't recognize the actor throughout the film, though I knew him... I only understood that when watching the credits. It wasn't one of those commercial films that made him so famous through the noughties; can anyone guess what it was? 
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:07 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
I agree with both of you. Speaking of actors who play the same thing, the best example is De Niro in my opinion. He also shows that this doesn't really matter much. He's amazing.
Speaking of versatility, I have to give it to Depp, yeah. He's the first and only actor who played this trick on me: he got into the character's skin so well that I couldn't recognize the actor throughout the film, though I knew him... I only understood that when watching the credits. It wasn't one of those commercial films that made him so famous through the noughties; can anyone guess what it was?
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For me, it was Nick of Time.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:25 |
I haven't seen that one... Actually I haven't even heard of it 
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JLocke
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:33 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I really like Mel Gibson. Willis is okay for me, but Gibson is a master of acting with his face.
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Too bad he can only play one type of character super-convincingly, though. At least for me. |
Nope- completely agree with you. But that doesn't bother me. I love Mel Gibson precisely for that- he is never acting, per se- he is "himself," much in the same way Will Smith can only play one personage, or for that matter, the amazing Morgan Freeman.
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Glad you saw where I was coming from. Mel is fantastic at what he does, even if what he does isn't as broad of work as some of his fellows. |
I agree with both of you. Speaking of actors who play the same thing, the best example is De Niro in my opinion. He also shows that this doesn't really matter much. He's amazing.
Speaking of versatility, I have to give it to Depp, yeah. He's the first and only actor who played this trick on me: he got into the character's skin so well that I couldn't recognize the actor throughout the film, though I knew him... I only understood that when watching the credits. It wasn't one of those commercial films that made him so famous through the noughties; can anyone guess what it was?
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Nightmare on Elm Street?
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:33 |
JLocke wrote:
Nightmare on Elm Street?
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 Oh come one, you should know, if anyone... 
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:35 |
Why should I know? I love movies, but I'm certainly not a Johnny Depp biographer by any means.
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:39 |
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I would guess, Edward S.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:40 |
JLocke wrote:
Why should I know? I love movies, but I'm certainly not a Johnny Depp biographer by any means. |
Because of an avatar you had a while ago... but I might be wrong. EDIT: actually I think it was Takeshi Kovacs' avatar.
Edited by harmonium.ro - November 07 2010 at 15:43
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