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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:18

To repeat:  the military-industrial complex owns more than you dare imagine.  (I know, I grew up in the 60's.)  Ya'd best go listen to some 60's music, to understand what we all knew to well back then.  Maybe start with Neil Young's Ohio.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:26
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

To repeat:  the military-industrial complex owns more than you dare imagine.  (I know, I grew up in the 60's.)  Ya'd best go listen to some 60's music, to understand what we all knew to well back then.  Maybe start with Neil Young's Ohio.   



A: What is "the military-industrial complex"? It sounds like an area-51 style bunker.

B: Can you name a for profit company that is owned by the United States military?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:27
Scratch the Ohio thought. 
 
Get out yer Zappa albums.  Listen to The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Desitiny.  Read the liner notes.  We all be workin' in a Gas station. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:28
Damn it llama, how do you feel about it?

*hoping llama would be cool with something communists did*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:34
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

To repeat:  the military-industrial complex owns more than you dare imagine.  (I know, I grew up in the 60's.)  Ya'd best go listen to some 60's music, to understand what we all knew to well back then.  Maybe start with Neil Young's Ohio.   



A: What is "the military-industrial complex"? It sounds like an area-51 style bunker.

B: Can you name a for profit company that is owned by the United States military?
A.  I dunno
B.  Boeing, just off the top of my head.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:35
I don't want the government having anything to do with private businesses. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:36
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

To repeat:  the military-industrial complex owns more than you dare imagine.  (I know, I grew up in the 60's.)  Ya'd best go listen to some 60's music, to understand what we all knew to well back then.  Maybe start with Neil Young's Ohio.   



A: What is "the military-industrial complex"? It sounds like an area-51 style bunker.

B: Can you name a for profit company that is owned by the United States military?
A.  I dunno
B.  Boeing, just off the top of my head.

The military owns Boeing?
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:37
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

To repeat:  the military-industrial complex owns more than you dare imagine.  (I know, I grew up in the 60's.)  Ya'd best go listen to some 60's music, to understand what we all knew to well back then.  Maybe start with Neil Young's Ohio.   



A: What is "the military-industrial complex"? It sounds like an area-51 style bunker.

B: Can you name a for profit company that is owned by the United States military?
A.  I dunno
B.  Boeing, just off the top of my head.

The military owns Boeing?
Pretty much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:39
By that you mean no.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:40
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

By that you mean no.
By that I mean without military spending Boeing would be non-existent at this time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:41
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I don't want the government having anything to do with private businesses. 
i dont want private buisness having anything to do with governmentWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:42
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Damn it llama, how do you feel about it?

*hoping llama would be cool with something communists did*


No. I'm agin' it. Agin' it, I say.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:44
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

By that you mean no.
By that I mean without military spending Boeing would be non-existent at this time.

Perhaps, or perhaps it would be active in other fields. 

Most corn farmers and domestic sugar producers would be nonexistence without federal spending / protection. That doesn't mean it owns them.

Though of course I disagree with subsidies, protection laws, and the obscene amount of spending in the military domain.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:45
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I don't want the government having anything to do with private businesses. 
i dont want private buisness having anything to do with governmentWink

I believe "having something to do with" is a symmetric binary relation, so my statement covered that.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:48
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I don't want the government having anything to do with private businesses. 
i dont want private buisness having anything to do with governmentWink

I believe "having something to do with" is a symmetric binary relation, so my statement covered that.Wink
hmm... im not sure i want private buisness having anything to do with private buisness... or the government having anything to do with the governmentWink
 
guess ive got to give up all hopeLOL
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 23:59
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

By that you mean no.
By that I mean without military spending Boeing would be non-existent at this time.

Perhaps, or perhaps it would be active in other fields. 

Most corn farmers and domestic sugar producers would be nonexistence without federal spending / protection. That doesn't mean it owns them.

Though of course I disagree with subsidies, protection laws, and the obscene amount of spending in the military domain.
 
At least we agree on obscene spending in the military domain.  To compare corn farmers, subsidies and all, with one of the few industries we have the actually produces a trade surplus, is facetious.  Boeing makes good jets, or in the case of the 787, if they can actually get it transportinjg people, that are productive to the customers.  All I am saying is that the military $ subsidises the commercial, or at least keeps the wolf from the door during the bad times.  I make no judgement as to the value of that.
 
Whatever, if g'ment/ military Hummers would have somehow kept GM alive, without bailout, I'd be good with Hummers. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2010 at 00:03
Yeah, that is nice but I was talking about the US military literally owning companies.
As in, hypothetically, all of Boeing's profits going directly to the military.

Though Pat and llama are opposed, as I figured


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2010 at 00:39

I am just paranoid enough to believe that they do actually own companies (maybe not Boeing...), said "profits" going to some other clandestine CIA/NSA front.  There's cameras everywhere.  I know,I know, this sort of paranoia is not necessarily known outside of Idaho and various midwest militia strongholds, but I have no doubt 'bout it...I lived in Wyoming.  The whiskey's in the jar.  And no, I'm not sitting here in my military khakis, no gun sitting on my lap nor rifle over my shoulder, waiting for the worst.  No, I'm listening to some Dylan, maybe some Rush, maybe whatever comes up on the CD player next. 

 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2010 at 00:57
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Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:


 
I have the perfect solution, anyway: Palin/O'Donnell 2012! 

I seriously hope you're joking. 

I'd really love that to be the republican duo for 2012... 

I bet you would, Teo. You'd love a reason why nobody should even think of voting Republican.

I have to say, in my case that would certainly work. I might be no big fan of Obama's, but if Palin becomes the prime R candidate . . . sorry, I'm voting Democrat. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2010 at 01:07
Why would you have to be drunk to tap the Palin/O'Donnel ticket, Equality?
 
I'd hit that sh*t dead-sober any day. Thumbs Up
 
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