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Poll Question: Which of those worst albums is the worst ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:00
Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?

1. It lacks melody
2 Roger Waters can't sing
3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album
4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else?
5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer!
6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough.
7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer.
8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway.
9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over.

so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:04
I like it.

Hate Mostly Autumn though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:06
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I like it.

Hate Mostly Autumn though.

Ooh, boohoo,  fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:09
With the exception on Abacab, I don't really know these albums.  I don't think Abacrabs is that bad.  I only know Love Beach thanks to An Officer And A Gentleman being in a box set I have.  I played it once in LP form and the album cover I do know all too well.  Thrakattak is really just a bunch of noodling around and they don't make any pretenses that it is an actual album.  So if pressed to pick one it would be that one even though it's not fair as it isn't a regular studio release and I do actually have it.  The one good thing I will say about it is I got it used. LOL  But it wasn't for sale as cheap as it should have been. Angry

Edited by Slartibartfast - November 03 2010 at 06:12
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:10
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I like it.

Hate Mostly Autumn though.

Ooh, boohoo,  fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this. 

LOL...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.LOL....you'll get over it.


I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:12
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I like it.

Hate Mostly Autumn though.

Ooh, boohoo,  fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this. 
Hate Mostly Autumn since when Angela left the band. So I don't really hate Mostly Autumn because this si just Bryan Josh's group. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:15
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I like it.

Hate Mostly Autumn though.

Ooh, boohoo,  fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this. 

LOL...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.LOL....you'll get over it.


I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Don't care if you don't like them. I don't like their current line-up either. But what does Mostly Autumn have to do with this topic?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:15
TFC.

On Love Beach: I doubt it'd get as much flak as it does without the same cover, and I honestly think it's a 3 star album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:16
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I like it.

Hate Mostly Autumn though.

Ooh, boohoo,  fanboy gets upset and needs to attack someone else's (former) favourite band. If you can't stand this criticism, don't visit a post like this. 

LOL...oh boy...I'm certainly not a fanboy...I just said "I like it" in case you somehow missed that. Seems you are the one really crying.LOL....you'll get over it.


I still can't stand Mostly Autumn though. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Don't care if you don't like them. I don't like their current line-up either. But what does Mostly Autumn have to do with this topic?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:16
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?

1. It lacks melody
2 Roger Waters can't sing
3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album
4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else?
5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer!
6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough.
7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer.
8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway.
9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over.

so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:19
If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary  Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album.
In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until  On a Island .

   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:21
......after that Floyd didn' exist because Waters dissolved the band. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:24
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary  Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album.
In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until  On a Island .

   

I agree about "AMLOR" being a Gilmour solo-album (but I don't mind, it's obvious who is the better musician of those two), but "The divison bell" IS a group album. Lots of it was made by David, Rick, Nick with Guy Pratt jamming on the Astoria.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:27
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary  Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album.
In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until  On a Island .

   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:28
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?

1. It lacks melody
2 Roger Waters can't sing
3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album
4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else?
5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer!
6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough.
7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer.
8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway.
9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over.

so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap.

 
Simply my opinions about youy points (I have started this poll so I'm feeling guilty for the poor TFC)..

1) Two Suns in the Sunset and The Gunner's Dream don't lack melody Imho.
2) I can agree about Waters' singing skills, but the worst song of the album is sung by Gilmour 
3) It's a Pink Floyd album made of songs discarded from Animals and The Wall. It lacks the keyboards of Rick Wright and this is its weakness.
4) Remember that when it has been written UK were fighting against Argentina in the Falklands, the Iron Lady was Prime Minister and the British welfare was cancelled. It was the yuppies' age so reminding people about bad things happening was not so useless actually.
5) David Gilmour sings on Not Now John (point 2). I don't know if he was thinking to Waters when he was crying "f**k all that" LOL
6) Partially right, but some songs were ready since before Animals. When Waters came to studio for the new album after the Wall he had two projects ready: TFC and Pros and Cons. The band choosed the first.
7) Rick was sent out of the band during the recording of The Wall. He took part to the tour as additional musician and not as part of the band. So he's the only person who earned some money from that disastrous tour.
8) Nick Mason was there as always.
9) Where is rock in a masterpiece like Tangerine Dreams' Zeit ? 

Said so, I think it's the worst Pink Floyd album, but it's still better than many other bands' masterpieces. 
Instead of worst I could better say "less good".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:29
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary  Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album.
In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until  On a Island .

   


Yup.  Well said. 
High Hopes is enough to justify the whole Gilmour's career IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:30
Division  Bell  terrible boring album   just trying make Wish you were here all over again only good moments on that album are Ricks .

 song writing on that album is really not  that good and its to long ..


oh Ok High Hopes is a good enough tune but that's about it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:31
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

If the Final Cut is a Waters solo album then Momentary  Lapse of Reason is a David Gilmour Solo album.
In fact the Final Cut really was the final cut because after that the Floyd really where just the David Gilmour Band who didnt make a Decent album until  On a Island .

   

I agree about "AMLOR" being a Gilmour solo-album (but I don't mind, it's obvious who is the better musician of those two), but "The divison bell" IS a group album. Lots of it was made by David, Rick, Nick with Guy Pratt jamming on the Astoria.
For AMLOR Gilmour used songs that were ready for his new solo album so it's effectively a follow-up to about face. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:33
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

Division  Bell  terrible boring album   just trying make Wish you were here all over again only good moments on that album are Ricks .

 song writing on that album is really not  that good and its to long ..


oh Ok High Hopes is a good enough tune but that's about it.


I agreed with you then you added the High Hopes bit which to me is as boring as the rest. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2010 at 06:37
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Originally posted by 40footwolf 40footwolf wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?

1. It lacks melody
2 Roger Waters can't sing
3 It's not a Pink Floyd-album
4 Does he HAVE to tell us how bad the world is over and over again? Has he got so little inspiration that he can't write about anything else?
5 Where's David Gilmour? He IS the better singer!
6 It's an uninspired thing to pick songs which were thrown into the bin during the recording of "The Wall" because they weren't good enough.
7 Where's Rick Wright? He too is a better singer.
8 Where's Nick Mason.... oh, forget this one, he's not a singer and is not a good drummer anyway.
9 It may be progressive, but where's the ROCK?? Only "Not now John" is there to kick you out of the coma this album gives to you, but by then the album is (thank God) almost over.

so all in all: it's just a Roger Waters solo album, and Waters only cares for his lyrics and not for good music. Well, I don't care for good lyrics if the music is bad, but I'm more forgiving if the music is excellent and the lyrics are so-so. Give me "On the turning away", "Learning to fly", "High hopes", "A great day for freedom" etc. etc. anytime over this crap.

 
Simply my opinions about youy points (I have started this poll so I'm feeling guilty for the poor TFC)..

1) Two Suns in the Sunset and The Gunner's Dream don't lack melody Imho.
2) I can agree about Waters' singing skills, but the worst song of the album is sung by Gilmour 
3) It's a Pink Floyd album made of songs discarded from Animals and The Wall. It lacks the keyboards of Rick Wright and this is its weakness.
4) Remember that when it has been written UK were fighting against Argentina in the Falklands, the Iron Lady was Prime Minister and the British welfare was cancelled. It was the yuppies' age so reminding people about bad things happening was not so useless actually.
5) David Gilmour sings on Not Now John (point 2). I don't know if he was thinking to Waters when he was crying "f**k all that" LOL
6) Partially right, but some songs were ready since before Animals. When Waters came to studio for the new album after the Wall he had two projects ready: TFC and Pros and Cons. The band choosed the first.
7) Rick was sent out of the band during the recording of The Wall. He took part to the tour as additional musician and not as part of the band. So he's the only person who earned some money from that disastrous tour.
8) Nick Mason was there as always.
9) Where is rock in a masterpiece like Tangerine Dreams' Zeit ? 

Said so, I think it's the worst Pink Floyd album, but it's still better than many other bands' masterpieces. 
Instead of worst I could better say "less good".


You're wrong about point 6. Waters let the band choose in 1978 between "The Wall" and "Pros and cons". There was no way that David and Nick could choose for another album than "The Final Cut". Waters even set a deadline for that album to be finished, knowing that slow worker David Gilmour wouldn't have enough time to come up with better songs himself.
Point 8: Yes, Nick may be there (except for "Two suns"), but you hear much less drums than on any other Floyd album. Very much the same for point 5: Yes, Gilmour's voice is there, but only for half a song, the rest is just Waters either whispering or screaming, but never singing.
Point 9: I don't know, I don't listen to Tangerine Dream Wink... but if it lacks rock, then I don't know if I will like it. Then again, one would probably not expect any rock from Tangerine Dream, but I certainly expect some rock on a Pink Floyd album.
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