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Hawkwise
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 31 2008 Location: Ontairo Status: Offline Points: 4119 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:19 | ||
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Conor Fynes
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 11 2009 Location: Vancouver, CA Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:22 | ||
Poor Final Cut...
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 16:00 | ||
The best of Magma would struggle to avoid my vote, so Merci has to be my choice.
The only album on here I would just rate at a scrapy 3* is The Single Factor. The rest are all 2* or 1* garbage. |
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Hawkwise
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 31 2008 Location: Ontairo Status: Offline Points: 4119 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 17:43 | ||
Yeah strange easily the best album in that list ... |
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Bonnek
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4515 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 17:53 | ||
Ouch that's bad. I mean really bad. Is this meant as a self-parody? |
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Logan
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 18:05 | ||
I take it you haven't heard Merci. I would've thought it might appeal to your tastes more than Magma's best. |
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Lozlan
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2009 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 536 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 18:07 | ||
Let's discuss. The Final Cut is a very competent release that has struggled beneath the overshadowing stigma of Roger Waters' bloviation. As someone else said, a strong Waters release, perhaps, but as a Pink Floyd record it is the absolute sticks. Not even the pretense of band cooperation, no writing credits for any of the other members, a continuation of the bleak, self-concerned lyricism that bogged down The Wall, and (most importantly, perhaps) the lack of Wright's keyboard contribution...this is a terrible Floyd record. But not a bad Roger Waters record. Of course, this brings to the fore the question of how we objectively judge a piece of music. Am I condemning The Final Cut because it's a terrible piece of music, or because it represents what is, in my opinion, the complete nadir of everything that made Pink Floyd powerful and compelling? Probably a little bit of both, at the end of the day. I will say unequivocally that I find Waters' wailing drone really insufferable on this album, but how much of that I can attribute to unconscious prejudices towards a man I consider to be a complete, fully-fledged jackass is beyond me. In short: I never listen to it, I find it repugnant, thematically dull, irritating, self-conscious, self-indulgent, and (dare I say it?) kinda whiny. I really, really don't like it. But to each their own. Edited by Lozlan - November 02 2010 at 18:08 |
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tdfloyd
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 06 2008 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 997 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 18:37 | ||
I'm One of the Few who enjoy the Final Cut. ThrakAttak is about the worst thing I've ever heard and it got my vote. Love Beach is alos right there.
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40footwolf
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2010 Status: Offline Points: 651 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 19:04 | ||
Whoa whoa whoa! What's with all the hate for The Final Cut?
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Lozlan
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2009 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 536 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 19:11 | ||
Edited by Lozlan - November 02 2010 at 19:12 |
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catfood03
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2009 Status: Offline Points: 785 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 19:27 | ||
I can't speak for the others albums on this list but neither Abacab or Final Cut is the worst from the respective artists.
I vote "other" for Can's self-titled album |
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Andy Webb
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Posted: November 02 2010 at 20:05 | ||
Love Beach. I do not appreciate record companies forcing epic prog rockers to become pop stars. even the cover is atrocious.
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Adams Bolero
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 679 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 21:58 | ||
I like it. In fact I love it.
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Jörgemeister
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 10 2008 Location: Nauticus Status: Offline Points: 2296 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 21:59 | ||
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40footwolf
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2010 Status: Offline Points: 651 |
Posted: November 02 2010 at 23:00 | ||
Seriously, that album has some damn fine songwriting, some of Rogers' best as a matter of fact, it has gorgeous, memorable melodies, and the story is more concise, more relatable and way more moving than the dull, overfed monster that The Wall turned out to be. It's one of my favorite Floyd albums, easily.
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b_olariu
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5532 |
Posted: November 03 2010 at 02:23 | ||
King Crimson by far, the rest I like
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edible_buddha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 195 |
Posted: November 03 2010 at 03:08 | ||
Hawkwise got it right as far as PF is concerned.
OK, The Final Cut is an exercise of an overinflated ego, an exaggerated experiment, however, it did have some strong points that maintained my interest. A very hit and miss album. However, The Division Bell sounds like a band that had already broken up. It truly did sound like a contractional obligation where the band members simply couldnt be bothered - which is what happens when bands go well and truly overboard in trying to be 'commercial'. No passion, no ideas, and incredibly flat.
At least Roger tried something..... before he left PF (with great animosity i might add).
PS... I voted for Camels 'the singles collection'.... I simply couldnt sit through it.
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I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long.
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: November 03 2010 at 03:24 | ||
The Final Cut is a four star album ya'll.
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 05:28 | ||
It's a tarantella...you can find lot of people able to play this kind of music around Naples. I think Maradona could do it, too.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Anthony
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Posted: November 03 2010 at 05:49 | ||
The Final Cut is the worst garbage ever released as a so-called Pink Floyd album, but I'm surprised that Big Generator is considered to be a worse Yes album than Onion or Open your eyes.
Edited by Anthony - November 03 2010 at 05:50 |
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