Should marijuana be legalized?

I don't think so. I think they would be criminals anyway. Just they would change their product.

The No.1 consumers of the mexican cartels are the US drug addicts, so, I have a lot of hopes in the prop 19 of California, there is a lot of violence going on in the cities of the fronter because the cartels are fighting the pass of marihuana to the US. A law of that in California can be bad for them, because if it is aproved, they will lose a part of their bussines there, and if it works, other states will follow California and they will lose a lot of money because there will be no more market of marihuana for them.

The people will consume other drugs anyway? well, if you give them one legal, that can help reducing the use of another substances, why no ask that to the people of Netherlands to hear what about that? someone here has posted an info. about how has work for them.

They still have the money laundering, prostitution, other drugs, corruption, etc? well, that's still a big problem, but with the money the goverment use for the drugs war can be use to stop corruption, money laundering and weapons traffic, etc. thats where they get all the money, the help of corrupted politicians and police, the strong armament that can kill soldiers like their made of paper and the impunity of most of their crimes. The mexican president is an idiot and he still want this war? well, no problem, elections starts in 2012, if someone doesnt kick him off the presidential chair before.

So, if the California people vote yes on prop 19, they can save at least a few inocent mexicans that could be trapped in crossfire, and in the future, that can help to save more people.

JLocke wrote: Unfortunately, the alcohol companies have been funding smear campaigns against the prop 19 guys. Even more unfortunately, it seems to have worked. Some false information about prop 19 allowing people to go to work high as a kite was sent out over the airwaves recently, and the number of people in favor of the bill shrank considerably, I'm told. I just hope it's not over yet.

Who on earth would believe that?  Can you just walk into work drunk right now and not face any consequences?

It'd be nice if people used their heads every once and a while.

Pot would be legal already if the supporters hadn't been smoking too much pot. 

I vote a very enthusiastic yes. For me it is nothing more than a question of freedom, and I'm hoping Californians will vote for freedom on November 2nd.

JLocke wrote: akin wrote: JLocke wrote: akin wrote: I don't think so. I think they would be criminals anyway. Just they would change their product. Including the folks who smoke it? They become crooks too, y'know.  I'm so glad I don't see the world through your eyes. I would  make ten times more mistakes than I'm already bound to make as it is.  Impossible. If you took some time to understand the others opinions instead of making every post an ego contest, you would see the world in a much better eyes than you in fact do. The first thing you could start doing was to not invent random sentences like you just did now just to criticize the person you are talking to (and that is not even criticizing the argument, you always want to criticize the person), then you could have good conversations. You can barely form a sentence yourself. If I were you, I wouldn't be lecturing others on such matters. I invented nothing. As far as I can tell, you're blind to the real world. I'm sorry you are unable to see this, I really am, but ego has nothing to do with it. I've been dead wrong about things before, and I've admitted it. Look at history, look at the facts. Look at the amount of people on this board who agree with my position. My irritation with you is simply due to your own unwillingness to even give real argument. All you've done is post retorts amounting to nothing much except ''impossible'', ''I'm not naive, you're naive,'' and so on. Okay, now, tell me directly why you think keeping drugs illegal will help people in the long run, taking into consideration everything the 85 intelligent members in this thread have said as well. I'm willing to listen.

After you talked here, I have no option but to ignore you. It is useless to keep a conversation with you.

The History Channel on cable is running a new series called Marijuana, A Chronic History.  

Apologies to those who won't get the joke.


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 01 2010 at 22:26

Deleuze wrote: Can't wait to see California's results

Me too, when they will show the results?

Sadly, many Americans still vote with socially constructed misguided values in mind, not logic. 

Textbook wrote: When has widespread availability of a narcotic or mind altering substance improved society. Just give me one example.   I thought so.