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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 09:46
OK, I got up early to work on this, although how one can "prove" blendy and low content, I am not sure LOL except for page after page of blank quotes. It took me two hours to figure out how to use the "Member Search" function (ironically, I figured it out from an explanation Footsie gave Bea Shocked) so I only have the very first part of this. It will go faster tonight now that I can use the search function.

Anyhow, now I have to get ready for work, so I will finish this later. It is kinda underwhelming~ I will do my best, but i can't prove vibes, and I can't prove gut feelings. And in my heart, I know shes bad, and the fact that she tried to guilt me rather than prove it to me logically sets it in stone for me.

And her thread interaction with others leads me to believe that she has a team, and is not the SK. I have a good feel for who the MJ recruit is~ this person & Bea seem fairly close in the thread, but I do not know if Bea is on that baddie team or the other. And since Progkidjoel was a lynch switch, I am unsure. I am the vanillaist of vanilla civs here, so i am living an info free lifestyle. But I can guarantee you that Bea is a baddie.

Those who know me/us KNOW the last thing i want to do is lynch Bea Heart~ and I wouldn't be doing this unless I were sure.

Bea replaced Anthony H, who had like one post. Before Bea replaced him, all of Jons posts were very OT, kinda all over the place.

OK, here is some typical Salty Jon before Bea joined the game~

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

A question about the game;  what happens once the Mafia's "killers" are gone?  Can the teams then only win by slowly lynching every remaining good/independent character?


Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

My theory: the mafia killed the Decemberists! Shocked

Bet no one else has come up with that one yet. Approve


Beas first post, 10/17 at 2:40

Originally posted by Bea Bea wrote:

hi guys! I shall now begin my frantic 34 pages of catch up! :) 

*gets more coffee* :) 


And here are Salty Jons subsequent posts:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Yeah, I give up on trying to be a crazy smart detective. 

Hate to go with an obvious choice, but I'm too lazy to re-read through everything again in order to catch up on what all has happened since I went home.  I vote for J-Man since he's apparently not been here for a good long time.


Teehee, but I've been a lurker. Tongue

My vote goes to jampa17/


Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Yeah, but lurking != posting and helping discussion along. Wink


I will finish this up tonight, it may take some time, but you'll have the full post.

And I am so sure of this~ I am voting now~

*Votes Bea*



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 10:53
Not all of my posts were OT before Bea joined.  I will admit that a larger fraction of them were, because this is my first Mafia game so I was getting used to how to play.  And how is the first one "off-topic"?  It seems like a pretty reasonable question for someone who has never played before and doesn't know the game mechanics. 

As for the reasons I was quiet during other parts, see these two posts, they explain it fairly well (the first time I had 5(!) tests that week, and college tests are more important than Mafia, and the second time, as I say, I went home for the weekend and had no internet access):
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72149&PID=3895387#3895387
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72149&PID=3898054#3898054

I'll be making another post when I return with my vote and my evidence, which is pretty straightforward at this point. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 10:55
When I return from class is what I meant, have to go to German.  Seeya on the other side. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 13:23
OK, here goes.  Time for me to cast my vote, and before I do I'll present my evidence.  

Days 4 and 5, S~V~S and the same two other players voted similarly - Day 4 for JJLehto (who may have been a bad guy, but she and the others may be on the other baddie team, trying to draw attention away from themselves) and day 5, she and the other two were the first three to vote for J-man (who, as we all know, turned out to be a good guy).  This in itself is not good enough evidence to convict anyone, though, so I'll continue.


Over the last day or two, she's been claiming that Bea is a baddie, based on (so far) unsubstantial evidence, much of which has involved me.  See, if you will, for evidence: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72149&PID=3918165#3918165 and her post immediately before it - a quick look will prove that her accusations are not very sound here.  My opinion:  She's attempting to draw attention away from herself, because she's starting to get worried that people will put the pieces together.  Stating repeatedly that Bea is "mothering her flock" and similar statements, she's attempting to play on the fact that she and Bea have played together before on more than one occasion while most of us (including myself) haven't ever played before, period.  We, the other players, have no way of knowing for sure if what she says about how Bea acts when she's a baddie is true, other than trusting her word.  This late into the game, without some solid way of proving it, I can't accept that as evidence.  If she develops more solid quotes rather than just slinging accusations (and if I can verify them), I'll pay more attention for the next lynch vote. 

After night 5, S~V~S survived a night kill somehow.  She claims that it was the result of her winning a contest (which may well be perfectly true) but that doesn't prove she's not a baddie, and it's also not the only explanation; Other possibilities are a) Jon Anderson character decided for whatever reason to protect her, which I kind of doubt, b) She was saved by Maynard James Keenan after some BTSC between the baddies, and c) She is playing the Mikael Akerfeldt character, thus granting her automatic night-kill protection.  Three of the four possibilities here show that she could very likely be a baddie.  

Unfortunately, the pieces stack up against S~V~S here, whether or not I'm right will be determined in the future.  From my point of view though, it's a pretty solid chunk.  

Based on this evidence and on personal opinion, I vote for S~V~S.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 15:58
Day 6: Vote Tally (as of October 28th, 2010  5:00PM EST)

1. S~V~S- Bea

2. SaltyJon- S~V~S





Results (thus far):

Bea  1
S~V~S  1






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:26
Currently unsure of where my vote lies. I will have to analyze the situation and decide later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:27
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Currently unsure of where my country lies. I will have to analyze the situation and decide later.

Have the unifaun ask his true love's eyes. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:34
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Currently unsure of where my country lies. I will have to analyze the situation and decide later.

Have the unifaun ask his true love's eyes. Wink
LOLLOL That was on my mind while I was writing that post.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:35
CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE MY COUNTRYYYYYY LIES?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:47
Quick question, Jon~

why was none of this suspicious before i brought up Bea?

Back to work, later, guys :)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 19:02
Day 6: Vote Tally (as of October 28th, 2010  8:00PM EST)

1. S~V~S- Bea

2. SaltyJon- S~V~S

3. nutella23
- Bea




Results (thus far):

Bea  2
S~V~S  1






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 19:36
ok - here';s the deal guys - my laptop - in it's infinate wisdom has decided it want's to crap out right now. And I would go back and get rid of that acidental apostophe - or ad the second d in ad - or acidental - but I can't. :( 

I can curently only use one key at a time - and can't even backspace more than once. Except aparently sometimes the return key. I"l be back when I get this thing up and runing cuz realy this post disgusts even me. :( 
Hopefuly I get this figured out tonight. If not I'l try before work tomorow. (which is at 1 pm est - so I'l have time when I get up to work on it.) - I would phone post - if I can get *that* working again. as wel. *sigh* - technology hates me. :( 
sory again. :( 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 19:40
hay Bumbly-Bea wanna come be a ghost with me?

It might happen Geek
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:06
Yeah, I think (for once) I will actually listen to the two sides for a while to see which I trust more before I vote. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:12
Oh no, Bea~! I know it's better than your phone, but that laptop is haunted  Evil Smile

Today I had a friend on another forum that needed help, so I just took on a cohosting position, and i have to catch up. I will be back to finish posting later about Bea/Jon and why Satan has nothing on them~ Shocked

Or my case, actually Smile

I just need some time~ and I am hoping Bea gets her laptop more functional. Wall o'text makes me feel REALLY guilty (Bea is like my Mom reincarnated, lol~ she can dish the guilt)

Thanks for your patience, Prog Rockers Rawks
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:21
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

hay Bumbly-Bea wanna come be a ghost with me?

It might happen Geek


You havn't hung out with me once, ghost of coolin

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:26
Originally posted by S~V~S S~V~S wrote:

Quick question, Jon~

why was none of this suspicious before i brought up Bea?

Back to work, later, guys :)


Because until recently I didn't have enough to make a solid theory.  I'm not about to put myself in the eyes of the baddies on a half-formed suspicion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:46
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by S~V~S S~V~S wrote:

Quick question, Jon~

why was none of this suspicious before i brought up Bea?

Back to work, later, guys :)


Because until recently I didn't have enough to make a solid theory.  I'm not about to put myself in the eyes of the baddies on a half-formed suspicion.


Well, you should take that chance sometimes. No guts, no glory. And others may have the same suspish as you, and you voicing it may lead them to step up and support you. What can also happen is that the baddies can kill you before you mention them; as a matter of fact, once you mention them, they are LESS likely to kill you, because it makes them look bad.  But you are right; sometimes they DO just kill you~

If you have suspicions, you should say so. I get killed early a lot because I always speak my mind, buty I catch a lot of baddies, too Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:58
Indeed, but as I've said before I'm still getting used to the game and I'm a naturally paranoid/quiet person, so I like to take the time to build on what I think.  Don't worry, I'll be more vocal from now on (and next game).  Interesting, by the way, that nutella has sided with you here when your evidence prevented isn't so solid yet;  possible BTSC going on, maybe? 

Also...if Bea's keyboard doesn't let her press more than one key at a time, how did she do parentheses or the asterisk, or capital letters for that matter? Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:00
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Yeah, I think (for once) I will actually listen to the two sides for a while to see which I trust more before I vote. LOL


I believe I will do the same :)

Hope you get your puter fixed Bea
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