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Roterstern 
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 Posted: October 23 2010 at 05:28 |
Zappa is so great that continues to release yearly new albums even after his death! (and that's already more than 15 years!). Amazingly prolific musician.
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"Die Freude am schauen und begreifen ist die Schönste Gabe der Natur", A.E.
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arnold stirrup
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 17:19 |
One Size Fits All
Hot Rats
Uncle Meat
my "holy trinity".
then:
Burnt Weeny Sandwich, Waka/Jawaka, The Grand Wazoo, Weasels Ripped My Flesh, Shut Up And Play Your Guitar, Zappa In New York, Roxy And Elsewhere.
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So much music. So little time.
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 18:26 |
 Roterstern wrote:
Zappa is so great that continues to release yearly new albums even after his death! (and that's already more than 15 years!).Amazingly prolific musician. |
Music from beyond the grave. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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VanVanVan
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 18:52 |
I'm a big fan of his earlier stuff, specifically Absolutely Free, We're Only in it for the Money, and Uncle Meat. As someone who had a lot of trouble getting into Zappa those are the ones I would start with.
But Hot Rats is probably a safe bet too.  |
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"The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen
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Majikthise
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 19:25 |
Over-Nite Sensation and Apostrophe' is the best one two punch ever. Start there.
Perfect blend of humour and awesome music. He has other albums that are either funnier or more technical, but none that have that same balance. Also, Apostrophe' contains Uncle Remus AKA the best song Zappa ever did.
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Pang Chi Nam
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 20:15 |
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I started with Apostrophe then Joe's Garage, then Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar. Hot Rats is amazing as is One Size Fits All. Go to Zappa.com and listen to Zappa Radio.
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"The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limit."
-George Bernard Shaw
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Xanatos
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Joined: February 01 2010
Location: Latin America
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Points: 305
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 20:59 |
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Zappa is great nuff said , If i were you i would take hot rats , in general its a great album!
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Rabid
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Posted: October 25 2010 at 22:43 |
Tinseltown Rebellion
Studio Tan.......(for off-the-wall)
Hot Rats
Waka Jawaka
The Grand Wazoo
Sleep Dirt.....(the non-vocal version*)......for musique.
Jazz from Hell
Civilization Phase III Act One + Two.............for abstract Synclavier
Apostrophe
Live in New York
One Size Fits All
Roxy & Elsewhere
Overnite Sensation.......for humour and tight jazz-rock.
Guitar
Shut Up n' Play Yer Guitar.......for non-stop guitar solos.
* I got nothing against Moon Zappas vocals......I just prefer the original.
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"...the thing IS, to put a motor in yourself..."
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Catcher10
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 16:34 |
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He's Moon Unit and Dweezil's daddy...
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Hawkwise
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:20 |
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Best Place to start for New Zappa devotee Overnite Sensation.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:56 |
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We're Only In It For the Money - it's a difficult album to get into but it is the most rewarding listen once you do
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 Time always wins.
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darkshade
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 18:36 |
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just get LATHER!!!!!
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moshkito
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Location: Grok City
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:15 |
Finnforest wrote:
Zappa is a major commitment if you want to know the complete artist. Be ready with time and lots of cash.
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Nahhhh ... just run down to the nearest used store and you will find 3 albums in there for $3 dollars each! Good enough start ... and is in keeping with the Frank "scene" that expense is the defining factor in music ! ... he would love that one today I'm sure!
I do a lot of buying in Amazon and such and pick up some used stuff. I simply can not afford all the prices out there. I still buy a lot of new stuff, but a certain percentage of it is used, and they are not always expensive at all.
But yeah ... $30,000 would probably be the amount I would need to buy all the CD's in my record collection ... and that means that I have not even started buying the stuff I want and love to have, that is new ... that would easily be another $30,000 .... so I have to depend on what's left and be thrifty with my expenses.
But if you buy Frank, get it direct from them ... if there is one family that has fought so much against the rip offs and the corruption and is still putting it out for you with a lower price than the top 100 on Billboard ... you just have to decide if you want cheap music ... or real music!
Edited by moshkito - October 26 2010 at 20:16
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
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moshkito
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:22 |
Hawkwise wrote:
Best Place to start for New Zappa devotee Overnite Sensation. |
That is an easy one to mention because it was a commercial success and got him on radio big time. However, in many ways it is not exactly representative of the majority of his work at all, much of which may have some extended jams and other musical delights, whereas this album is less of that and much more radio oriented than anything else.
He knew it too! And his next album had a couple of long cuts to break the "song" and "radio" mentality right away ... (Apostrophe).
Best place to start with Frank is ... close your eyes, turn around and grab one and don't look at it until you have heard it all ... this way it won't matter what it is called. When you get done listening, you can look at it ... and I guarantee you that you will say, more than once ... that was cool ... totally cool ... and different too!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
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Bea
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:29 |
SaltyJon wrote:
Who is Frank Zappa? This guy:
you make me so happy.  
also - I'm in the all zappa is good zappa camp. - Pick one and jump in - he evolved alot - start at the begining - start at the middle - it's all great for what it is.
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"I Asyvw Rnxawcfbo Tohtrf Eaksp Allemnga Irthem Andq Nofqubj Eroamatt."
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himtroy
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:36 |
Don't follow these people giving you specific songs. You're a prog rock fan so you know this, you gotta get ALBUMS. Apostrophe and One Size Fits All are pretty accessible starting points (I've gotten many a Zappa fan started with Apostrophe). From there if you just look up descriptions of his albums/era's you should be able to find whatever you're looking for.
Personally my favorites are Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats, Roxy and Elsewhere (my absolute favorite), Weasels Ripped My Flesh (far from a good starting point though...), and Chunga's Revenge. Though I have well over twenty Zappa albums, all of which are great. I'd have to say my least favorite I've heard is Overnite Sensation, it's good, but a little poppy for my preference of Zappa.
And all Zappa truly is good Zappa, but the people saying "just pick something and go" might possibly lead you astray. I know for a fact that the first Zappa I ever heard was Waka/Jawaka, and while I thought it was interesting, it was a little in my face and hard to grasp. Then after working my way from Freak Out up to it, I absolutely loved it and it remained my favorite for a year or so.
Edited by himtroy - October 26 2010 at 20:39
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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Triceratopsoil
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Joined: April 03 2010
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:37 |
 This one's the best, from a "lack of poop jokes" perspective
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Bea
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:47 |
 @ lack of poop joke reference.
God zappa is awesome.
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"I Asyvw Rnxawcfbo Tohtrf Eaksp Allemnga Irthem Andq Nofqubj Eroamatt."
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Bea
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:49 |
*crap* - I wasn't supposed to post anymore. :( I had 108 posts. :( 
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"I Asyvw Rnxawcfbo Tohtrf Eaksp Allemnga Irthem Andq Nofqubj Eroamatt."
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:49 |
Bea wrote:
*crap* - I wasn't supposed to post anymore. :( I had 108 posts. :( |
what is the significance of that?
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