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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:05
I'm moving back to NC next month.

Boo state income tax, state regulated liquor stores, and John Edwards.  Thumbs Down
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:07
Why the move?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:12
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Why the move?


Several reasons:

Both sides of my family is there (whereas only half of my wife's immediately family is here).  My relatives are having children and we want our kids to grow up with cousins (like I did).  There's also been 2 deaths in my family this year, so I kind of want to be with my family as much as possible.

I'm sick of the damn heat.

I'm sick of the damn lizards.

Our apartment complex is raising our rent $40 a month and we are not satisfied with the way our apartment complex has become (like our AC going out 5 times in one month before they fixed it).  So like good believers in capitalism, we are taking our money elsewhere.  Approve  For less than what we are paying here a month, we can live in the wealthiest neighborhood (single family home, not apartment) in my hometown.  We can have a yard for our kids to play in.

Since we both work at home, we can make the same amount of money each month but significantly reduce our cost of living. Smile

Also, most of my friends are there and not here. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:15
Pretty cogent argument. I approve of your logic and will allow you to move.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:25
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Pretty cogent argument. I approve of your logic and will allow you to move.


Thank you, noble leader.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:30
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I'm moving back to NC next month.

Boo state income tax, state regulated liquor stores, and John Edwards.  Thumbs Down

I was going to vote for John. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:35
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I'm moving back to NC next month.

Boo state income tax, state regulated liquor stores, and John Edwards.  Thumbs Down

I was going to vote for John. LOL


I just have no respect for him.  It's not even just his politics (which of course I disagree with)- it's the man.

How can a husband and father go running around with some woman and father her child while his wife is coping with breast cancer?  What a disgrace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:36
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Pretty cogent argument. I approve of your logic and will allow you to move.


Thank you, noble leader.

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Strange. I imagined you would look much different than that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:39
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Pretty cogent argument. I approve of your logic and will allow you to move.


Thank you, noble leader.

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Strange. I imagined you would look much different than that.


Yeah, that red garment really brings out my back pimples.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:48
All Parking Authority employees should be bound and  shot in a public place.

Anyone disagree?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:52
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

All Parking Authority employees should be bound and  shot in a public place.

Anyone disagree?

lol what happened
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 08:56
An excessive $51 dollar parking ticket incurred at midnight on a street with no conceivable reason to disallow parking at the time. The signage was clearly meant to confuse people into thinking parking was allowed so that the city could make a cool $1000 dollars by gorging people as they're enjoying a Phillies playoff game.

EDIT: Seriously even if signs were clear and I deliberately defied them how often is a meter person around at midnight on a Sunday? The answer is never. It was because there was a playoff game, and it was known that they could profit easily.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - October 21 2010 at 09:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 09:04
The joys of the PPA - back in college I parked in a "no parking zone" to literally run into a building for three minutes to retrieve something....by the time I got back outside the car was gone....tow truck must have been trolling
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 09:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 09:10
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

An excessive $51 dollar parking ticket incurred at midnight on a street with no conceivable reason to disallow parking at the time. The signage was clearly meant to confuse people into thinking parking was allowed so that the city could make a cool $1000 dollars by gorging people as they're enjoying a Phillies playoff game.

EDIT: Seriously even if signs were clear and I deliberately defied them how often is a meter person around at midnight on a Sunday? The answer is never. It was because there was a playoff game, and it was known that they could profit easily.

Simple capitalism on the part of the parking authorities.  It's just good business practice to be on duty when there are customers present.  They are not responsible for your poor decision making abilities with regard to parking spaces.

if you don't like they way they do business you could park elsewhere.  Use a private parking lot, or better yet, start your own and gouge your customers to pay the excessive property taxes on otherwise useless land.  Or better still move to  town with better parking.  Do the capitalist thing and take your business elsewhere.  You'll show them.

You have no beef for making a bad choice of parking places.  Wise up man, this ain't Libertopia.


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Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

An excessive $51 dollar parking ticket incurred at midnight on a street with no conceivable reason to disallow parking at the time. The signage was clearly meant to confuse people into thinking parking was allowed so that the city could make a cool $1000 dollars by gorging people as they're enjoying a Phillies playoff game.

EDIT: Seriously even if signs were clear and I deliberately defied them how often is a meter person around at midnight on a Sunday? The answer is never. It was because there was a playoff game, and it was known that they could profit easily.

Simple capitalism on the park of the parking authorities.  It's just good business practice to be on duty when there are customers present.  if you don't like they way they do business you could park elsewhere.  Use a private parking lot, or better yet, start your own and gouge your customers to pay the excessive property taxes on otherwise useless land.

You have no beef for making a bad choice of parking places.  Wise up man, this ain't Libertopia.


It's not good capitalism as it does not take place in the market. The government is not forced to live by objective rules. It can make up parking fines/violations as it goes along. If you wish to fight this, you must do so in procedures they have set up, in courts run by the city.

Further, there's no competition here. If I disagree with the city deceitful parking practices, I can not chose to patronize another's. They own all the roads. They cannot be bankrupt. My dollar vote means nothing.

On a privatized street, there's no deception. On a public street, the ability to park freely is assumed unless otherwise indicated. On a private street we would expect that exact opposite. There's no method of trickery there.

Also, a parking ticket is punitive. Parking on a private street is payment for a service.

Don't confuse government with the market. The two are mutually exclusive.

Wise up man your critique isn't clever or correct. This isn't Libertopia it's Orwellian. Thank you for reminding me.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - October 21 2010 at 09:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 09:16
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

 
Wise up man, this ain't Libertopia.

I can agree that Philadelphia sure as hell is not Libertopia.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 09:37
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

An excessive $51 dollar parking ticket incurred at midnight on a street with no conceivable reason to disallow parking at the time. The signage was clearly meant to confuse people into thinking parking was allowed so that the city could make a cool $1000 dollars by gorging people as they're enjoying a Phillies playoff game.

EDIT: Seriously even if signs were clear and I deliberately defied them how often is a meter person around at midnight on a Sunday? The answer is never. It was because there was a playoff game, and it was known that they could profit easily.

Simple capitalism on the park of the parking authorities.  It's just good business practice to be on duty when there are customers present.  if you don't like they way they do business you could park elsewhere.  Use a private parking lot, or better yet, start your own and gouge your customers to pay the excessive property taxes on otherwise useless land.

You have no beef for making a bad choice of parking places.  Wise up man, this ain't Libertopia.


It's not good capitalism as it does not take place in the market. The government is not forced to live by objective rules. It can make up parking fines/violations as it goes along. If you wish to fight this, you must do so in procedures they have set up, in courts run by the city.

Further, there's no competition here. If I disagree with the city deceitful parking practices, I can not chose to patronize another's. They own all the roads. They cannot be bankrupt. My dollar vote means nothing.

On a privatized street, there's no deception. On a public street, the ability to park freely is assumed unless otherwise indicated. On a private street we would expect that exact opposite. There's no method of trickery there.

Also, a parking ticket is punitive. Parking on a private street is payment for a service.

Don't confuse government with the market. The two are mutually exclusive.

Wise up man your critique isn't clever or correct. This isn't Libertopia it's Orwellian. Thank you for reminding me.


The critique is both clever and correct since it applies all your own principles to your situation.  All the advice you love to give everyones else with a complaint Is right here for you to take advantage of.

There's no private parking anywhere in all of Philadelphia.  Hmmm possible but not likely.  I know there is some in Norristown because I've used it myself.  Take a private taxi to your destination.  You DO have the ability to boycott the parking situation, You simply choose to take advantage of government funded roads and parking for the sake of your own convenience (read laziness) and then bitch when you get caught breaking the rules.  If everyone joined your crusade the city would have no choice but to change their policies as it would mean an apparently  substantial loss of revenue if all the other million or so residents are as "parking-challenged" as you are.  Perhaps you're not persuasive enough to make that happen.  I don't know.

The best solution would be for you to take your own advice and move to another place where parking is handled better.  Simple Libernomics.  The same advice you give everyone else applies to you as well.  Don't complain, move.


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What principles of mine did you apply? You just came in here trolling like you usually do. You have no idea what my principles are let alone how to apply them.

Yes there is no private street-side parking in Philadelphia. Even most of the parking lots in the area of government granted lots.

There is no choice in the matter of government roads. I am forced to pay for them. I don't understand the choice in the matter. To say I chose to use the roads is ridiculous. I chose between what? Any option of me getting to the stadium has been monopolized by government. If government chopped down all trees and produced it own oxygen, Am I choosing to breath it? Don't be absurd.

Also as I said above, I didn't get caught doing sh*t. I got caught by the arbitrary whim of the city government. There were no signs disallowing parking. There was no indication that parking was not allowed.

If everyone joined my crusade the city would have two options. Stop preying on people to collect a hidden tax revenue, which it cannot openly institute, to finance the corrupt, wasteful, disgusting city government. Or the government could privatize streets, end its immoral monopoly, and allow some sanity to return to transportation.

The best solution would be for privatized roads. Newsflash, I tell people to move when its due to a transgression they do not like of private enterprise. It's a statement backed on proper property rights. Last I checked the government is not private.

If a gang of burglars entered broke into your house, and then said it would allow you to live there if you paid them a daily tax, I would not respond to you "well you just have to move if you don't like it" because a crime has been committed. There should be legal recourse. You owned your property and have been aggresed upon. The government does not legitimately own roads. It has no authority over them. They are burglars in the house. They should be expelled. I need not bend to their fancy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2010 at 10:20
Burglars in the house. Oh boy, now we're going into a comedy routine.  Next you'll be trying to convince me you're not a witch/warlock. 

First you said there were signs.
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

"the signage was clearly meant to confuse people into thinking parking was allowed"

Now you say there were no signs, 

 
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

There were no signs disallowing parking.

Which is it?  What exactly did they say before they magically disappeared in your subsequent post? How were they deceptive?

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Even most of the parking lots in the area of government granted lots.

So there are some private parking lots you could use.  I thought so.  You should use them, not the "burglar's" parking spaces.  Taxi anyone?  Privately owned companies.   Which is worse, paying $50 for a taxi or $50 to the Burglars when you violate the parking ordinances?  If it makes no difference to you quit bitching.  If it does, choose wisely in the future and quit bitching.

You had choices, you didn't use them.

If, after 208 pages of this drivel I can't guess what your principles are, then it would indicate that you are not very good at explaining them.


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