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darksideof View Drop Down

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 21:50

Slartibartfast wrote:

M@X wrote:

^ no no no , I am not upset, I just wonder what you don't like (more precisions, to help improve maybe)

Dean should be upset that his design was passed over. LOL

Congrats to Abel. May it have a long life.

thanks!

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 21:51

Epignosis wrote:

I generally loathe change, but the more I see it, the more I like it. The colors and visuals react in my brain and gets me excited about music (both listening to it and creating my own).

Also, the logo looks fine to me. Stands out just fine.

For what that's worth. Smile

You're probably right that in a week we'll all be used to it and it'll be weird to change it back LOL

darksideof View Drop Down

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 21:57

Finnforest wrote:

You're probably right that in a week we'll all be used to it and it'll be weird to change it back LOL

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 22:04

Finnforest wrote:

Just want to reiterate that the objections of most are not a slam of Abel. I think most here like and respect Abel's projects.....it's just a matter of what works in that location for a clear and instantly recognizable welcome mat for PA.

I truly hope these comments aren't bumming out Abel Smile

Thanks a lot man! I appreciated your comments.

I am not really. I don't mind criticism as long there aren't negative. It is fine. Everyone are entitled to it, However I am aware that everyone won't be please and go crazy about my collages that is fine!. Embarrassed

we all are not alike and we all don't like the same Art, but it is Max who has the last voice here and I am guessing that he is happy with it because he put it in. I did several versions of headers and banner but he is the one who made the last decision.

Edited by darksideof - October 12 2010 at 22:25

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 22:07

No offense, but the new banner makes me glad that I have the forums bookmarked and not the frontpage

Conor Fynes View Drop Down

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 22:08

The collage itself is well done, but it's way too much for a logo. The old logo fit into the rest of the page perfectly... The forum logo also shouldn't have been changed however many months ago..

darksideof View Drop Down

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 22:22

Henry Plainview wrote:

M@X wrote:

^ no no no , I am not upset, I just wonder what you don't like (more precisions, to help improve maybe)

Music should be complex, but visual design should be simple. There's just too much crap on it, so it looks like I'm having a bad acid trip in the '90s next to my album collection. And I've always thought darksideof's collages were pretty ugly, but I didn't say anything in the threads because there was no reason for me to crash their party. But when it's right on the front page I feel compelled to share my negativity.

Well Henry that is fine! Like I said earlier in a comment. I am not hopping that everyone will like the collages and I am not expecting it either. that is fine that don't like them or find them pretty ugly. that is fine they are so many pretty popular artist that I find their work pretty ugly as well, however my voice won't make them change their mind of how to satisfy my taste or the type of art work I like.

Art is free and words! and complex in my eyes specially when it is made for Prog music in mind. When I listen to Tangerine Dream, Gong,Vdgg, Genesis, Pink FLoyd, DT, PT, Ozric Tentacles, Opeth, Yes, Area, Henry Cow, ELP, Frank Zappa, etc. etc, etc, There aren't much of anything simple in the sound that there bands created it to my ears.

When I create these collage I have that in mind vividly! these complex, psychedelics sounds and of course the albums covers themselves are a great influence. ( Roger Dean and Storm are all time fav)

it isn't that I don't care what prog fans might think about my collages, but what really matter is how satisfy I am with them. If I listen to everyone comments all the time. It won't be my imagination that will create them but only everyone else comments and ideas.

sorry !

Wikipedia:

Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging symbolic elements in a way that influences and affects the senses, emotions, and/or intellect. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression.

A collage (From the French: coller, to glue) is a work of formal art, primarily in the visual arts, made from an assemblage of different forms, thus creating a new whole.The material used in a college can be both original and borrowed, and the medium is limited only by the imagination of the artist.

Edited by darksideof - October 12 2010 at 22:49

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 22:45

I have to say...it looks fantastic.

Would you like some Bailey's?

Stooge

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 23:45

I actually like the look of the main page (the header). I don't find it all that distracting, but my memory is so bad that I'm having a hard time visualizing what it looked like before. LOL

Edited by Stooge - October 12 2010 at 23:45

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 23:50

Well, I for one like it.

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Posted: October 12 2010 at 23:55

Stooge wrote:

I actually like the look of the main page (the header). I don't find it all that distracting, but my memory is so bad that I'm having a hard time visualizing what it looked like before. LOL

I sometimes have the same problem when someone changes their avatar, for some reason I can't remember the old one at all. LOL

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 00:13

I think the new header is very cool and adds a touch of class to the site. I love it. Great job Abel!

Rosebud

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 00:18

I think the banner is sick! The old one was getting a little stale (new on forums, been coming to this site forever)

Viajero Astral View Drop Down

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 00:42

JLocke wrote:

May I make a suggestion?

Why not have a couple of different versions of the banner, then rotate them randomly so as to add some variety to the front page? Plus, it would appease any potential objections to this new look by not having it remain a constant feature.

Sounds like a good idea for a contest to me, like this blog, they had made contest or invite designer to make new headers so every time you enter you will see a diferent one.

Edited by Viajero Astral - October 13 2010 at 00:44

progkidjoel View Drop Down

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 01:51

I actually thought it looked awesome, like all of Abel's work. It's one of those ones that you can take for face value and enjoy with a half a second look or stare into for 10 minutes and still notice new stuff. Really loving it.

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 02:44

Being a rather conservative person, I'm not too often to be found among the ones who cheer loudly because of a change. But this one is quite an improvement. I like it for its colourfulness.

Edited by someone_else - October 13 2010 at 02:47

Easy Livin View Drop Down

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 02:55

I like it, it brightens things up on the home page. Will it be used for the forum too M@x?

Dean

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 03:02

progkidjoel wrote:

I actually thought it looked awesome, like all of Abel's work. It's one of those ones that you can take for face value and enjoy with a half a second look or stare into for 10 minutes and still notice new stuff. Really loving it.

I disagree - this one is too predictable and contains too many images and "icons" that he's used too often before. It lacks the wit, thought and imagination of the earlier collages so all you see is all you get, and you get that in a few seconds. It doesn't have any of the clever juxtaposition of images he's used before so there is no relationship from one "icon" to another to create interest and reaction from the viewer - my only reaction from it is "oh, someone's got Photoshop". Sorry Abel, I don't like being negative about a persons work of art (which is why I don't like reviewing), but I don't think there is any creativity in this one.

Edited by Dean - October 13 2010 at 03:02

What?

Sean Trane View Drop Down

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 04:49

This'new design" hit me in the eye right away and I wondered why an add had replaced the logo and headlining band.... until I saw that the logo was still there....

It actually clashes (a bit) with the purple and orange colours of the site

It plays to much on the prog D&D clichés for its own good... Im not sure it's good for the prog cause...

I guess I'll get used to it.

Edited by Sean Trane - October 13 2010 at 04:51

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

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Posted: October 13 2010 at 04:58

Seems I'm not so alone in my views.