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Windhawk 
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 Posted: October 12 2010 at 15:22 |
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It's good looking, but the sites logo does drown in it. Applying the logo on a white background in a gradient towards blank might be an option, so that the logo gets illuminated amidst all the colours, with the gradient ending 4-5 millimeters away from the logo. Or something like that. Experiment so that the site logo gets a tad more focus, basically.
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Evolver
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 15:52 |
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I like it as art, but it's too busy for a site header.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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darksideof
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 16:21 |
 M@X wrote:
Hi fellow proggers !!!
Good news! Today I put the new site header design, a prog collage created by our friend Abel Adames.
Have a look and post your comments here.
 Nice job Abel
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thank you sooo much! Max I really apriciate it!.
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http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 16:24 |
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I hate to voice in against it, especially considering the quality, but I feel that more consideration could have been given to where it appears on the site and its size. The collages usually look good in full size, but as small as this one is many of the images appear tiny and hard to discern, and it seems very visually heavy and noisy, drawing the eye into it but not really focussing anywhere. Again, with collages this is typically fine, but I feel some more technique could have been used to draw the eye towards the prog archives logo and the salient points around the logo in the site.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 16:26 |
For example on what i mean about the eye not being drawn to the logo, we have some well placed items (Aqualung is facing towards the logo as is the Leftovertures guy) but the Court head way to the left could have drawn the eye closer to it.
I think it might have looked better with the logo centered and larger, with items facing left on the right side and items facing right on the left side, so that your eye is inevitably drawn to the center. (Just as one idea)
Edited by TheGazzardian - October 12 2010 at 16:26
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darksideof
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 16:28 |
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http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/
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darksideof
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 16:55 |
Hi Fellas This is abel I hear you all your great constructive criticsims. Thanks fellas for all the one that like it and the one that don't too. I am gonna try to answer all post that brought more attention: 1. the main reason why the images might look kind of blurry is because once an image is being reduce in resolution it gets blurry and its sharpness is mostly lost. It doesn't matter how large it was originally. Believe me i am also a fan of sharp images and details. Look real close at most of my collages. I love sharp images. 2. I hear ya! that maybe PA should of use or create an original collage or "Art" but when I think of prog I think of these famous albums whom we the prog fans love. These bands albums represent prog in the world of many prog fans I believe. If PA would of have an original Artwork it wouldn't have anything to do with prog I think. And Believe I Can create an original collage or art. 2. True it does looks busy and I was trying hard not too. It is hard for a prog collage not to look busy when they are so many quiet awesome albums. which I don't want to leave out. However I had too and at the end it will looks crowded. Also, 3. Also as an collage artist I am pretty sure that I can't please everyone and I am sure that not everyone will like my style or collages. that is fine. You are entitle to your voice. I am fan of prog but I don't like all prog bands. I am a huge fan of Surrealist artists but I don't like all of them. and their style. Thanks you very much!
Edited by darksideof - October 12 2010 at 17:00
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http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 17:01 |
M@X wrote:
^ no no no , I am not upset, I just wonder what you don't like (more precisions, to help improve maybe)
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Dean should be upset that his design was passed over.  Congrats to Abel. May it have a long life.
Edited by Slartibartfast - October 12 2010 at 17:05
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Dean
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 17:26 |
Finnforest wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm in the minority again. |
I'm with you Snowie, just because i happen to like traditions and classic brandings/logos. Nothing against the artist Abel.
I love old buildings too, and how many Eurpean towns and cities maintain their classic look architectural streetfronts. Here in the States, everything looks like just another Applebees.  |
I'm with Ian and Jim.
Sorry.
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What?
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 17:34 |
Looks ok if you want to use it as a wallpaper, but as a header is not very usefull for that purpose, it has a lot of elements, for a website that can gave a heart atack to any web usability purist (thats what a friend of mine said, hes a web developer and honestly, the index page has a lot of elements, but doesn't bother me so much). The other problem is the Logo, its orange, yes, but there are a lot of elements that have a lot of visual weight and every single element has an unique hue, shape and a big contrast to anything in the composition, so you really have no idea of what to look first (collages arent good for websites). This place is, in my opinion, the best and most complete online enciclopedy of prog, so it needs more planiation of every aspect, in this case the visual, so it can work well for everyone, and not just look pretty. To Abel: Im not saying that its horrible, but its not good for a header, and in a more personal opinion, looks very 90's  . *(Its been a long time since I wrote something significant here in the forum, sorry for not passing by more often here).
Edited by Viajero Astral - October 13 2010 at 00:01
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 18:15 |
M@X wrote:
^ no no no , I am not upset, I just wonder what you don't like (more precisions, to help improve maybe)
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Music should be complex, but visual design should be simple. There's just too much crap on it, so it looks like I'm having a bad acid trip in the '90s next to my album collection. And I've always thought darksideof's collages were pretty ugly, but I didn't say anything in the threads because there was no reason for me to crash their party. But when it's right on the front page I feel compelled to share my negativity.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 18:41 |
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I definately prefer it the way it used to be... hate to say it, but the site looks much less professional now.
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Icarium
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 18:55 |
I LIKED IT VERY MUCH
nice jobb, very progressive in style
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Chris S
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 19:15 |
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Best do a poll I think ...
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 19:35 |
Chris S wrote:
Best do a poll I think ... |
Yes yes yet another poll. I see most people posting negative or critical comments so far in this thread. I liked it on first impression but perhaps it could do with a little tweaking based on the constructive criticism I've seen. Can we substitute Dean's for the forum header though?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 19:43 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
I definately prefer it the way it used to be... hate to say it, but the site looks much less professional now. |
I agree. I also much preferred the old logo in the forums. The site looks so amateur-ish. Don't get me wrong, I usually enjoy darksideof's art, but it just seems out of place from PA's sleek design.
Edited by UndercoverBoy - October 12 2010 at 19:44
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Xanatos
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 19:56 |
 "I like it..."
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JLocke
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 21:02 |
May I make a suggestion?
Why not have a couple of different versions of the banner, then rotate them randomly so as to add some variety to the front page? Plus, it would appease any potential objections to this new look by not having it remain a constant feature.
(No offense, Abel. I like what you've done. Just trying to think creatively as always  )
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 21:14 |
Just want to reiterate that the objections of most are not a slam of Abel. I think most here like and respect Abel's projects.....it's just a matter of what works in that location for a clear and instantly recognizable welcome mat for PA. I truly hope these comments aren't bumming out Abel 
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Epignosis
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Posted: October 12 2010 at 21:47 |
I generally loathe change, but the more I see it, the more I like it. The colors and visuals react in my brain and gets me excited about music (both listening to it and creating my own).
Also, the logo looks fine to me. Stands out just fine.
For what that's worth.
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New site header design, thanks to ABEL ADAMES
True! we spoke about that. I hope it will ok. Get the Ok first. I contact the painter from of Aqualung ( Burton Silverman) and he said it is ok. I know the Artist who did KC in the court had passed. but the rest I guess try to contact. them first.
