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    Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:44
Is there a reason for it? I've always loved prog. But I've never known why it's called "progressive". Unless you're talking about most of the guitar riffs from Rush there isn't anything that progresses. In fact, it's probably the opposite. Maybe I'm just thinking way too much into it. But I've looked it up, haven't found anything. Anyone know why it's "progressive" rock?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:52
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword</font><font face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2> Mushroom Sword wrote:

Unless you're talking about most of the guitar riffs from Rush there isn't anything that progresses.


lol, no.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:55
Yeah, you're looking to much into it.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:58
00s prog =/= 70s prog

And that's probably because music has....well, progressed. While some of us don't think it's necessarily a good thing (here's looking at you Walter, ol' buddy Wink).

Seriously though, since you said "progressive rock", I'm going to assume you mean artists that have progressed music in some way. Was that a cliche enough answer? Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:00
Originally posted by horsewithteeth11 horsewithteeth11 wrote:

00s prog =/= 70s prog

And that's probably because music has....well, progressed. While some of us don't think it's necessarily a good thing (here's looking at you Walter, ol' buddy Wink).

Seriously though, since you said "progressive rock", I'm going to assume you mean artists that have progressed music in some way. Was that a cliche enough answer? Tongue


No, I mean classic prog. I mean, I've read the backs Yes albums wherecall themselves Prog! (90125 for example)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:04
90125 was a pop rock album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:04
Its called Progressive Rock cause the songs get progressively longer and cause this website says so...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:07
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:

Originally posted by horsewithteeth11 horsewithteeth11 wrote:

00s prog =/= 70s prog

And that's probably because music has....well, progressed. While some of us don't think it's necessarily a good thing (here's looking at you Walter, ol' buddy Wink).

Seriously though, since you said "progressive rock", I'm going to assume you mean artists that have progressed music in some way. Was that a cliche enough answer? Tongue


No, I mean classic prog. I mean, I've read the backs Yes albums wherecall themselves Prog! (90125 for example)

Well, that was a pop album, but they were one of the dominant prog bands of the 70s so I guess they were still running with that tag to sell more albums? I don't know.

Plus, the majority of bands that try to directly copy 70s prog tend to be retro bands anyway. Prog still exists, it just sounds nothing like 70s prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:20
I used to agree that it had to "progress" but as you alluded to....that turned out to be quite narrow.

I see "progressive" music as anything that's different, challenging, out of the norm for its style etc

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:21
As far as I remember, when rock music started incorporating influences from other genres, like folk, jazz, classical, etc, people started saying that rock had "Progressed" beyond its boundaries, and the term progressive was used to define this music. It had nothing to do with the music progressing within itself, just stated the fact that it went beyond its limits. 
It's also important to remember that most all genres of music eventually do this, and we have progressive jazz, metal, rock, etc, so its more a tendency that happens when the artists get creative and want to push the limits a little (or a lot) further.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:27
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

As far as I remember, when rock music started incorporating influences from other genres, like folk, jazz, classical, etc, people started saying that rock had "Progressed" beyond its boundaries, and the term progressive was used to define this music. It had nothing to do with the music progressing within itself, just stated the fact that it went beyond its limits. 
It's also important to remember that most all genres of music eventually do this, and we have progressive jazz, metal, rock, etc, so its more a tendency that happens when the artists get creative and want to push the limits a little (or a lot) further.  


Exactly! Yes. That was a much better way of saying what I tried to LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:31
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

As far as I remember, when rock music started incorporating influences from other genres, like folk, jazz, classical, etc, people started saying that rock had "Progressed" beyond its boundaries, and the term progressive was used to define this music. It had nothing to do with the music progressing within itself, just stated the fact that it went beyond its limits. 
It's also important to remember that most all genres of music eventually do this, and we have progressive jazz, metal, rock, etc, so its more a tendency that happens when the artists get creative and want to push the limits a little (or a lot) further.  

Yeah, that was what I meant to say, except about 9001 times better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:32
It's called progressive rock because all the people who listen to it (like JJ up there^) are progressive, liberal hippies. (God I hate them.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:35
Its true llama.

We all know that all prog fans are old guys stuck in the 70's or young kids on drugs.

I love prog but haaaaate hippies Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:41
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Its true llama.

We all know that all prog fans are old guys stuck in the 70's or young kids on drugs.

I love prog but haaaaate hippies Angry


Ok thank you for explaining it. I can die now. Oh wait... got tickets for the Roger Waters Concert... I can die after that. Also I love prog and love hippies. But am not a hippy. But would not mind being one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:46
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Its true llama.

We all know that all prog fans are old guys stuck in the 70's or young kids on drugs.

I love prog but haaaaate hippies Angry


Ok thank you for explaining it. I can die now. Oh wait... got tickets for the Roger Waters Concert... I can die after that. Also I love prog and love hippies. But am not a hippy. But would not mind being one.


Your avatar is a unicorn. I'm pretty sure you're a hippy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:53
The whole idea behind progressive rock was to elevate rock music (aka 'popular' music) to a level of sophistication that could rival classical composition (as well as, in some circles, the Romanticist/Victorian literary canon).  The word 'progressive' was meant to posit that rock was 'progressing' into a valid form of timeless artistic expression. 

And proggies wonder why we're occasionally branded as pretentious? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:57
...artists that go out of their way to mock pretentiousness, are they even MORE pretentious?

Face it, us proggers love that word!
Deep down we love (or hate to love) the pretentiousness!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 22:06
It goes beyond music that "progresses" but about music that progresses beyond many of the stagnant musical forms.  That is progress, from which the term progressive came from.  If you only think the Rush guitar riffs are progressive, you may need to explore more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 22:08
Also, are all of you guys... do you have proof, or memories of it being called progressive rock for these reasons? Or are you just guessing, cause that's that's what it's called.
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