Do you support universal healthcare?

What is SES?

Epignosis wrote: The T wrote: Now you also want to take public education away from them... What chances do they have now to ever learn??  OMG without government education, how will anybody learn anything?

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Negoba wrote: thellama73 wrote: No one is saying that it's easy to go from being poor to being rich. Of course it isn't But it is possible. And it's not  matter of working harder alone, but also working smarter. Finding a niche in the market that needs filling. Plenty of people have accomplished this, but I agree that it's very difficult. The general philosophy of America is that those who overcome this difficulty should be rewarded for it, whereas those who do not have that choice. Even the poorest Americans are not starving to death. If they want more, opportunities exist.   Why are they not starving?   The state stealing from the rest of us with money and giving out food stamps.   The idea of a minimal safety net with ability to get higher quality if you can afford it has always been my ideal, including for health care (wow back to topic.)   In terms of health care our current safety net involves expensive, poor care. But if our argument was "Ok what is the safety net going to look like and how will we fund it?" and "How will other options look and how will they be funded?" we'd have moved WAY forward. Instead we're arguing about whether there should be a safety net at all, when there already is one.

 

I demand death panels and I want to be one of the ones who decides who lives and who dies. 

universal death = great band name

Slartibartfast wrote: I demand death panels and I want to be one of the ones who decides who lives and who dies.

Awesome. 

As for the whole taxes=stealing thing...yeah, we've got a bit of a weird thing going on over here.  A goodly portion of the population seems to believe that the government is a huge, brooding, interfering beast full of nasty progressives that want to control their lives.  I'm not entirely certain what they mean when they claim this...although I had a family member tell me not a week ago that the government caused this latest recession in order to get more people on unemployment.  Now that they are on unemployment, they are beholden to the government.  Or something.  At any rate, my neo-con relatives seem to think that receiving government assistance will transform the lower class into a mob of zombies with a taste for upper-class flesh.  And then the government will.......well, I'm not entirely sure.  Even the conservatives seem a little vague on this point.

Truth is, I would be more than happy for 60% of my income to be taken in taxes in order to fund universal health care, free college, etc.  This freakish predilection that neo-cons have for hoarding their wealth and measuring any cent they can pinch from the government is, in my humble opinion, kooky, paranoid, and sickly amusing.  Really, all you folk from outside the US...feel very, very lucky that you don't have to put up with hordes of Tea Party enthusiasts and Fox News pundits.




Edited by Lozlan - September 23 2010 at 18:17

Yes. An unhealthy citizen ultimately costs more than initial medical care.

Conor Fynes wrote: Yes. An unhealthy citizen ultimately costs more than initial medical care.

Having a heart attack and dying is pretty cheap, I hear.