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Slartibartfast 
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 Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:17 |
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Seems to me as good a place as any particularly considering the more recent albums. Why won't bands stick to the sub-genres we stick them in, dammit?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Marty McFly
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:24 |
 Textbook wrote:
I've always thought tagging should be done by album, not by band, and that multi-tagging should be possible.
However, nobody wants to go through the entire database retagging.
Except maybe Marty. |
Correct, very correct indeed. However, with Crossover & Prog Metal Team + school + my girl taking most of my time, it's not much of free time as it used to be.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my
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Mr ProgFreak
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Location: Sweden
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:41 |
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They should be in Eclectic.
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The T
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:43 |
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They should be in indo-raga
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Dean
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Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:48 |
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They should be in Cognito
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What?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:58 |
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They should be in Stoke Newington.
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timothy leary
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 13:59 |
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they should be in absentia
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 15:49 |
timothy leary wrote:
all you need is 5 genre
king crimson derived
yes derived
genesis derived
pink floyd derived
crossover
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No, that's not a good idea at all.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Any Colour You Like
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Joined: May 15 2009
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 16:01 |
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How about we just have three genres
Prog, Not Quite Prog, and Xover?
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 16:19 |
Their music is a mixture of (not equal parts of) prog, ambient, psych/space, electronic, hard rock, krautrock, alternative, pop rock and extreme metal (e.g. heavy sections of Bonnie the Cat, Anesthetize and Way Out of Here).
That's eclectic prog in my book.
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Textbook
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:11 |
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I've always thought we should have "good" and "bad" as genres.
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Tony R
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:35 |
How about "U" and "No U"
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J-Man
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Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:45 |
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I would say that all of their albums either fit in psych, crossover, or heavy prog. Unfortunately, all of their albums would be out of place in at least one of these genres. Thus, tagging doesn't matter very much in their case, as long as it applies to some of the albums.
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Dean
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:49 |
 Eh?
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What?
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:55 |
Wow, I tuned back in and there were some really good answers. 
Marty McFly wrote:
Textbook wrote:
I've always thought tagging should be done by album, not by band, and that multi-tagging should be possible.
However, nobody wants to go through the entire database retagging.
Except maybe Marty. |
Correct, very correct indeed. However, with Crossover & Prog
Metal Team + school + my girl taking most of my time, it's not much of
free time as it used to be. |
Oh no, you're not turning into a slacker are you Marty?
Edited by Slartibartfast - September 20 2010 at 18:57
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The Monodrone
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Posted: September 20 2010 at 19:10 |
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I personally believe it's pretty difficult to pigeonhole just about any progressive artist into just one genre, sub-genre, etc.
Even in their later albums (aka present day), PT still show an affinity for ambiance, psychedelia, and the occasional Krautrock (see: "Anesthetize"). Sure, they have a heavier style, but they're a very eclectic bunch.
That being said, for organization/categorization purposes, I feel that heavy-prog fits them pretty well.
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 15:58 |
Hi,
I would be more concerned with the worry about it being listed as A, or B, or C ... than I would the music itself ... even Steven has talked about that, btw!
But if you are worried about the description by someone that might not have heard the band properly, or felt that they were too "heavy handed" on the guitar once or twice in the whole album ... I'm not sure that you care that much about the band.
If I like something, it doesn't matter what anyone says ... so being defensive about it would seem a bit weird. I just want to see someone write down their view and expression and thought and justify it ... much more than a generic comment that has no basis in fact or time or place ... the reviews for a lot of the metal and goth fall in to that!
And yes, it is "heavy" ... but sometimes things are so heavy that they are weightless in space! ... and the point of view changes!
Edited by moshkito - September 21 2010 at 16:03
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 15:59 |
Dean wrote:
Eh? |
Yeah ... I concur!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
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ferush
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Location: Mexico
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Posted: September 22 2010 at 15:31 |
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The great and unique rhythmic section marked the sticker heavyprog
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himtroy
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Posted: September 22 2010 at 15:51 |
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We can't say crossover anymore? We have to say Xover? What is this, text messaging?
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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