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    Posted: September 17 2010 at 07:58
I'm doing quite a bit of these now, mainly because I'm bored.
 
Cog are an Australian progressive alternative band. I am really suprised that they are not on this site already. They have 3 albums I think.
 
Cradle Of Filth, basically because they have a very progressive extreme element to them, and I don't think anyone has ever thought of them as "prog influenced"
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Points: 1327 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 08:25
Cradle of Filth probably won't be included, because even the legendary Emperor aren't included yet. Emperor frontman's solo project Ihsahn 

Tech/Extreme Prog Metal

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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 08:30
Don't do it because you are bored. 
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Points: 192 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 09:32
Cog should be here yes.

Cradle of Filth. LOL NO
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Points: 310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 13:38
wow, people really don't like Cradle Of Filth, and the only reason I said them was a. I was a bit bored, and b. I'm a massive Filth fan

And I don't mean bored, I mean uninspired to do actual work, but inspired to do these.

I'm gonna fail my A levels, but by that time I shud be Oprah rich, hopefully
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Points: 310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 13:39
and why is Emperor on here, and Ishahn is. I can see some experimental reasons, but if Enslaved & Opeth are on here, I think Emperor should be as well
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Points: 3196 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 13:48
Cradle has a few progressive elements and progressed the extreme metal scene to new heights, but this is about prog music, not necesssarily progressive music as a whole.
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Points: 17651 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2010 at 16:32
Cog - once rejected some time ago ... and now lost in the desert Unhappy


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Points: 310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 00:22
Why were Cog rejected, and yes Cradle do have prog influences "PROG RELATED"!!!!
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Points: 527 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 01:33
Cradle of FIlth is for sure a negatory. 
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You know that PA has a sister site, Metal Music Archives, for dealing with metal bands right?
"You must go beyond the limit of the limit of your limits!" - Mr. Doctor
"It is our duty as men and women to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 07:29

Cradle Of Filth ? Symph BM.

Why not ? We already have BM bands in PA : Ulver, Enslaved, Arcturus, Negura Bunget, Drudkh and many others.
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 18 2010 at 07:34
Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

wow, people really don't like Cradle Of Filth
 
Dusk and her embrace is a 5-star album. I like them as well, not their whole discography but principles, dusk and midian are great albums.
 
 
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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I prefer Cruelty & The Beast & Damnation & A Day, they excelt at concept albums.

Never really liked Dusk to be honest, Danis voice wasnt as powerfull, some good songs tho.

How come some prog related bands like Muse & Metallica are one here, and aren't actually prog, but a genuine prog band like Cog are rejected.

This website has some very corrupt politics
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Originally posted by arcane-beautiful arcane-beautiful wrote:

I prefer Cruelty & The Beast & Damnation & A Day, they excelt at concept albums.

Never really liked Dusk to be honest, Danis voice wasnt as powerfull, some good songs tho.

How come some prog related bands like Muse & Metallica are one here, and aren't actually prog, but a genuine prog band like Cog are rejected.

This website has some very corrupt politics


you shouldn't say that - unfortunately you're misinformed Ouch and don't know how we are working
when a band is rejected by a team it's the result of a democratic process based on votes.

I didn't agree that Cog were rejected, but I have to accept this decision .. and I would be a fool to claim that this is corrupt ... and nobody can prevent me from listening to Cog whenever I want ... simple as that Smile



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Points: 310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2010 at 23:19
but they are a prog band, thats like if everybody decided to not have Genesis on the website, It' just be odd
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2010 at 23:26
genesis is a classic prog band, while Cog isn't there are many (MANY) bands that have prog influence, but aren't on the site. Cog (in my opinion) is more alternative than prog. alternative in some ways had prog influence, but often not enough to get on here
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Points: 16111 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2010 at 23:27
COF is clearly an Xover band, can't you see?
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Points: 11401 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 15:09
Really?

As the Crossover team doesn't agree with you on that one, would you care to explain in further detail how the compositional structure, the crafting of arrangements and the instrumental provess by the band makes them suitable for the genre?

Or if there are other factors in terms of instrumentation or experimental attitudes the core members of the xover team have failed to notice?

Please elaborate, in as much detail as possible. We're anxiously awaiting your extended knowledge and detailed analysis of this particular case.
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 17:02
I think Cog is a little mor Xover than COF. Cog is a lot like 3, in my opinion
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