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toroddfuglesteg
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Phaedra interview added yesterday. Interviews with some of the biggest names in RPI to be added in the next 60 days. I am serious, btw. I am also breathless. |
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Nightfly
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Vault Pick: Not a classic in my opinion but nevertheless a very nice album worth checking out.
Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Pił Locanda Delle Fate Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by toroddfuglesteg This is another good band from Italy.
The lush opening tells me that this is not the type of hard rocking bombastic symphonic prog from Italy which has been my daily fare during the last weeks. Locanda Delle Fate drags the tempo down and consentrate their effort on understated lush, pastorial melodies. Melodies which slowly penetrates your skin and stays there.
The music is based on baroque and chamber music. Well, their music is basically chamber music, based on vocals and tangents (piano and keyboards) as it is. There are some flutes and guitars too here. Chamber music, this is.
The vocals is the strongest point of this album. The deep, opera influenced male vocals here is excellent. Oh, the vocalist's name is Leonardo Sasso. Praised be his abilities. The rest of the band too is excellent. So is the rest of the album. There is no real killer tracks here. But songs like Profumo di colla Bianca and Forse le lucciole non si amano pił is really superb. But this album has this typical X factor lush feeling which seperate normal symphonic prog from Italian symphonic prog. An X factor you don't find in English, American, Scandinavian or any other European symphonic prog scenes. This album is one of the reasons I am exploring the Italian scene for more gems.......... gems like this album.
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Finnforest
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Grazie! Loved that one.
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Nightfly
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Thanks Chris.
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seventhsojourn
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^ Great review by the Finn-meister!
I'll check out the band's MySpace page later today, Paul. Enjoyed your own review as well.
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Nightfly
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Vault Pick: Nice one Jim.
Altare Thotemico Altare Thotemico Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by Finnforest Saucy, lively, tenacious! This band has heart
Altare Thotemico based in Ancona are the latest band attempting to provide new material in the spirit of the classic RPI sound and they succeed better than many recent efforts-which means they will thrill fans of the real spicy stuff while perhaps being too hot for the casual fan who expects all RPI to sound like a gentle Le Orme passage. The member's different ages and backgrounds have allowed a true amalgam of musical diversity to unfold. Altare's new release is from Maracash Records, another of the fine labels handling Italian prog. The music draws on a variety of styles and influences from psych, blues, avant, and jazz flavored rock, while the generous keyboards and bold vocals get the RPI juices flowing. Most important is the sense of playfulness and passion that was a hallmark of the classic period bands. Often newer bands are very technically gifted but lack that sense of musical mischief and soul-Altare Thotemico have not forgotten. Oh yes, we have a feast here! This is the kind of album which I find thrilling and rare these days. First, it rocks without any noticeable metal influence. Remember when rock could be damn heavy without metal influence or obligatory shredding? Second, it sounds warm and homey on the production side rather than overly slick and coldly mechanical. Third, surprises! Yes, we have songs here that will try anything and everything, even injecting pure weirdness like they used to do in the old days. Thankfully there are almost no English vocals; most singing is fantastic dramatic Italian. The nine medium length tracks total an hour of interesting prog-rock, and I mean that quite literally: interesting! Not for a second is this album boring. A variety of fantastic keyboards permeate every track, even organ to open the appropriately darker "Demon" which reminded me of Antonius Rex. Gianni Venturi is the bold and outrageous vocalist in the grand RPI tradition, big and dramatic, capable of sounding off-his-rocker sometimes, untamed, imagine a bit of Decamps, Stratos, and Fella (Jumbo)! There are lovely flute sections to give the mellower segments that '70s touch. And the guitars....oh yeah! Some very cool off-color acoustic moments as well as scorching solos, without resorting to unnecessary shredding. I'm impressed very much by the mountains of interesting ideas which are strong and complex while remaining fun. The musicians seem to be enjoying an improvisational approach towards one another, taking plenty of time to develop some really nice jams, while being equally adept at supporting the vocals or experimenting with quieter moments. The album is instantly enjoyable and moving despite the fact that it pushes away anything obvious or easy. It opens with a gorgeous pastoral swirl of flute and clean guitar, one of the few moments that actually conjure the serene and excellent cover art of Maracash's own Domizia Parri. (Most of the album is heavier and wilder than the peaceful album cover portends). Slowly soft keyboards usher in the passionate vocals of "Il Canto che Sprofonda." Things veer toward vintage heavy psych in "Lo Sciamano" with some great drum playing and guitar that eventually just completely grooves! The groovin' continues into "L'interessante vita del topo" with the vocals going over-the-top wild as the memories of harder-bluesy RPI come to mind: JET, Biglietto, perhaps De De Lind. You'll hear some obnoxious, almost absurdist vocals on "Computer Organico" that will scare your family....I loved every second as the song moves into avant-garde territory. "L'addormato" starts getting jazzy but closes with this cool guitar thing that reminds me of a Steve Howe earth-lava moment from Yessongs. "La mente mia" is maybe the heaviest full band jam but eventually it breaks into a superb guitar solo over keys. "Suite per Marianna" gives us a lovely acoustic intro and outro with flute and gentle bass guitar. Closer "Oltre" again just gets nuts with moments that sound like experimental space jazz channeling the Pholas Dactylus album. They are "out there" on this song! Wow-this album just makes me smile start to finish, that's really all I need to say. I need a cigarette after playing this CD. Be aware that Altare Thotemico is not especially entry-level RPI. While much of the music is I think universally approachable, the delivery and style of vocalist Venturi demands listeners willing to go to the edge with him. He is a true poet who I sense lives to get beyond the conventional, and while I don't understand the Italian lyrics, goes into a recitation style at times perhaps even channeling characters and such. It gets wild in that Ange theatrical sense so do not expect to chill out to a serene Le Orme vocal. I was told Venturi is a fan of the beat poets and writers ala "Kerouac, Ginsberg, Corso, Cassady, Burroughs, Hemingway and Raymond Carver" and the listener must be willing to embrace some adventure, stop shaving, pick up some hitchhikers and go "on the road" with a lot of wine and dreams. As they say on their website: "....this is where Poetry meets Music and this blend turns into something incredibly powerful, pure ENERGY! Whatever happens, this is our key word, our motto, and we believe ourselves to be carriers of an unrestrainable virus called "Soul!" The booklet features lyrics in Italian and a series of photos that suggest the band truly enjoys their collaborative experience. Altare Thotemico have made my kind of RPI album: little inhibition, lots of ideas, a joyful approach, and a willingness to offend the mainstream prog fan. Each song is a mini album of its own independent of the others. In another great year for RPI this one is pretty much essential for lovers of the genre. God I hope they make another album someday. |
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American Khatru
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War Cat!!
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Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"? |
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zappadaddy
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I like Gatto Marte but I don't know if they are real answer to After Crying,I doubt that.Maybee they are an answer to Seven Thieves from Minneapolis,awesome unknown project.
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My heroes are Frank Zappa,Ozzy Osbourne,The Plastic People of the Universe,Sun Ra and Mirek Wanek from Uz jsme doma
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toroddfuglesteg
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My library have Angelo Branduardi.......... and I am in Scotland. |
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Nightfly
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^ Your library would buy RPI albums!?!?! Wouldn't be a chance of that happening round here.
Edited by Nightfly - September 16 2010 at 05:57 |
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Pekka
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Yesterday I made a list of some RPI albums for our library to buy, Maxophone and Tilt included
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Nightfly
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^ No certainly not a bad album, but I found it very ordinary after the excellence of Ys.
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TGM: Orb
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Just listened to Ys again today and I'm now spotifying Il Balletto Di Bronzo's first album. It's actually pretty solid. Nothing much to do with prog rock, and the line-up is absolutely different but it's not a bad album.
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Todd
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Yeah, a gas main exploded in San Bruno, near San Francisco, which killed 4 people and destroyed dozens of homes. No one really knows why it exploded, other than age, but the sad thing is that three years ago the power company, PG&E, had already requested 5 million dollars set aside to fix that stretch of old bad pipe, but they never started fixing it. It could have been avoided! Very sad.
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Nightfly
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Vault pick: More jazz rock than RPI but I know many Italian prog fans love this album, me included......
Tilt - Immagini Per Un Orecchio Arti e Mestieri Jazz Rock/Fusion Review by andrea Arti & Mestieri are one of the best known Italian prog bands and have been active since 1973. They come from Turin and were formed on the initiative of Furio Chirico (former drummer of The Trip) who met with keyboardist Beppe Crovella (former member of a band called The Mystics) and four musicians coming out from a jazz rock band called Il Sogno di Archimede, Gigi Venegoni (guitar), Giovanni Vigliar (violin, vocals), Marco Gallesi (bass) and Arturo Vitale (sax, vibraphone). In 1974 they released their debut album for the independent label Cramps, "Tilt ? Immagini per un orecchio" (Tilt ? Imagines for an ear), a brilliant mix of rock, jazz, classical, Mediterranean influences and melodic passages. The art cover by Gianni Sassi, featuring a flying funnel in a blue sky among white clouds, in some way describes the overall sound of this work where many influences floating in the air are caught and channelled through this conical utensil having a narrow tube at the apex to be blended and conveyed on the tracks of the album.
The title of instrumental opener "Gravitą 9,81" (Gravity 9,81) is inspired by the law of gravity formula. Ignoring air resistance, an object falling freely near the Earth's surface increases its velocity with 9.81 m/s (32.2 ft/s or 22 mph) for each second of its descent. As gravitation causes dispersed matter to coalesce, on this track the creativity of the band perfectly blends the Mediterranean touches of colour evoked by the violin with a pulsing rhythm section and a jazzy sax solo. This piece is an authentic trademark of the band by now. Next comes "Strips", where the dreamy and romantic mood of the music contrasts with the bitter disenchantment of lyrics condemning a reality of empty conventions, of absurdities filling your head, of languid songs and artists whispering useless words, of faded stories about planets, wizards and gods... "Corrosione" (Corrosion) is a kind of short bridge leading to the beautiful instrumental "Positivo / Negativo" (Positive/Negative) where a first solar and dreamy part, featuring acoustic guitar and violin, gives way to a second part full of energy, featuring a great rhythm section and a good electric guitar work. "In cammino" (On walk) is another excellent instrumental that opens with a melancholic sax introduction, then rhythm takes off and melancholy melts in joyful passages where the members of the band showcase their musicianship. On the original LP it was the last track of side A. Next comes the short instrumental "Farenheit", where the rhythm goes slowly up like the temperature of a thermometer introducing "le plat de resistance" of the album, the long and complex suite "Articolazione" (Articulation), a piece about the necessity to live the present facing the reality. There's no time you can waste waiting dreaming for better days while the Death is leading into the grave all her dear lovers... "It's not because you think to have understood / That your future is going to change / In the mirror you must see / What is harder seeing...". The experimental "Tilt", almost an example of concrete music, concludes an excellent album where music flows away without weak moments. A must for every Italianprog lover! |
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Finnforest
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David, if you have technical questions about the music, by all means, drop the organist a line at their myspace messages address. They're great guys who will be happy to answer these questions. The organist is extremely well versed in classical music, having spent years in in-depth study on the music and composers. I've chatted with them, and I think they would welcome your questions and interest!
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American Khatru
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In terms of form the music takes some freedoms, but not many more than lots of composers took, even hundreds of years ago, with this form. Of the Toccata, it could be argued I suppose that the it went on to form some of the basis for the later form of Fantasia; the Fantasia is what some of these tracks run to at one point or another.
Let me add one other thing. It sounds like a 5-string bass on this album. I do not like 5-string bass at all, mainly because it's used so awfully and predictably by bands who get into that. This record though is fully justified in having that extra lower string on the bass. |
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Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"? |
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Nightfly
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I think it's a fair description AK but why not have a listen yourself here...........
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American Khatru
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Being a classical music fan, I wonder if that word is being used is true. Are these really "Tocattas"? Are they generally fast or at least involving a lot of finger-flight on the keys of the organ (or the other instruments)? Are there imitative passages, or even fugues? I could of course easily like this album even if the term Toccata was not being used "properly", but I have to say I'd REALLY be interested if it was.
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Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"? |
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Nightfly
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Sometimes it's worth reminding ourselves how good the classics are like here with this great review from Chris.
Maxophone Maxophone Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by seventhsojourn Maxophone was one of the few Italian groups of the 1970s that managed to record an English version of their album, although the English-language recording wasn't a great success. This review is based on the original and more highly regarded Italian version. Half the members of this Milanese sextet were classically trained musicians and most, if not all, were multi- instrumentalists. As a result, there are some novel textures on the album thanks to the singular array of instruments that the band employs. Vibraphone features prominently and while that in itself isn't unusual for an RPI album, it is when used together with valve horn, clarinet and trumpet. Along with the more orthodox saxophone and flute, the wind instruments generally tend to be in the driving seat throughout the album.
With the exception of the two closing bonus songs, all the tracks feature fairly complex multi- part arrangements. There might not be any sprawling 20-minute epics (the longest track is under 9-minutes), but we do get a series of six concise mini-masterpieces. Lead singer Alberto Ravasini has been compared to Peter Gabriel... not something I'd noticed myself but I suppose there is a similarity. Musically the band plays a sophisticated mix of classical, jazz and progressive music, with a crisp and compact rhythm section that provides a firm rallying point for the front line instruments. Their main influences seem to be Gentle Giant, perhaps not as quirky but with similar medieval flourishes, and King Crimson, with the fast section of ''Antiche Conclusioni Nerge'' having something of the ''Great Deceiver'' about it. This album should have broad appeal, not just to RPI enthusiasts but also to fans of the above mentioned prog heavyweights as well as Genesis and Van Der Graaf Generator. What it lacks in originality and RPI-ness, it more than makes up for in its dazzling brilliance. |
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