Theism vs. Atheism ... will it ever be settled?

Textbook wrote: I'm going to attempt to steer the debate in a more productive and conciliatory direction by suggesting that a theist can not be a real prog music fan.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Of course is a joke by Textbook,

shockedjazz wrote: So it happens that Hitler have a political care of the power of churches even the jew one in the begining! The first encounters of the catholic church with Hitler was precisely about the eugenic processes against the boys with mental illness. Answering your arrogant pose i would beg you to mind that mister Galton (founder) and the son of Darwin himself was the second president of eugenic society. I dont have time to search the quote now im going travelling but the first thing you could do is really read " The origin of the especies"....you must know your profets words dont you think?....... if not probably you will end saying Darwin discovered evolution About Hitler do some research and you find that his aim was to create a new terrible race based on nietzsches vision of the "blond beast"...he was pagan politicaly and internaly, doesnt matter what he did for washing his face....you can search for quotes evrywere in the internet...i recommend trevors ropper book and speer book to see what im talking about. But when im comeback if you still talking this things i guarantee you that your gonna get what you want...even if you dont like it. Quotes....yeah...a bunch of them indeed.

Oh ffs.

Where did you research this.

Hitler and the Nazi Party - they were was never a religious organisation or intended to act as a religion. The aspects of volkisch nationalism that the Nazi party developed during the 1930s was National Socialism at it's most core level. A part of this volkisch nationalism was the promulgation of initially positive eugenics (the development of superior genetics and the protection of human health) and gradually declined through a slow process into negative eugenics - the destruction of unworthy life. The Catholic church in Germany was an extension of Nazi ideology because it came to represent the glory, supremacy and power of the Germanic peoples. I'm not sure what you mean about Paganism, but I assume you mean that the Church was representative of wider Aryan culture, rather than simply a religion.

Nazism was never a religion, Hitler's megalomania may have made it seem so, but this was a classic trait of his cult of personality. People wanted power in Nazi ranks - people like Bormann, Goering, Steicher, Himmler and Eichmann all strove to please him because they knew service to Hitler was the only real corridor of power in Nazi Germany. The bureacracy of volkisch nationalism in Germany allowed the true face of Nazism thus to be hidden behind a facade of cultural progressivism, futurism and delusion.


Edited by Any Colour You Like - September 09 2010 at 04:09

Ok, well you can argue whatever you want, I don't have the time to trawl through historical scholarship to refute or add to anything you discover.

Also, I don't speak Spanish.

yes your so sure....my efforts in vain 
Maybe you need the scholarship your refering.

No i went to far i dont want to be arrogant myself, you can do whatever you want...
My apologies Any Colour
In one week we keep it going.....just try not to be so closed...we disscus that with quotes texts and books.

Yes exactly so a especific german religion obidient and totally linked to the party itself was settled.
Im not inventing:there were nazis baptizings, weedings and so on........

i will find quotes give me one week
you als have to be carefull on your readings, as i im

Any Colour You Like wrote: Dean wrote: Hitler adopted and adapted (perverted) any ideology that fitted with his demented view of the world. He even "endorsed" islam while condemning Christianity as being a Jewish byproduct (history wasn't his forte obviously) - why? because the arabic islam was actively antisemitic, not because he agreed with any of its theology. I'm not entirely sure Hitler condemned Christianity as a Jewish byproduct, but he did mutate religion into something he could use as an endorsement of Nazi ideology.

Run shockedjazz's spanish quote through Google translate