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40footwolf 
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 16:31 |
So I'm having a bit of a dilemma. On iTunes, you can buy the basic version of Magma's most famous live album(I forget what it's called, the one released in the '70s) for four bucks. 68 minutes of music for four dollars is nothing to turn up your nose at, but apparently there's another 2-disc version that has about twenty more minutes of content. The thing is, that version is waaaaaaay more expensive. I was wondering: Is there anything on the 2 disc that would be worth the roughly 5x price increase(20 bucks as opposed to 4)? Or is the original good enough?
Thanks for your help!
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 16:40 |
I don't know. have you looked in the discography Booster?
I would go for the bargain version myself.
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40footwolf
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:03 |
Well, Hal, I was thinking of getting into Magma and it seems like a live album, with a dash of material from a fair mix of their albums and for really cheap, would be a good way to introduce myself to them. I was just concerned that I'd be missing something if I went for the cheapo version.
Still, if it was good enough for the fine people of the 1970s, it's probably good enough for me!
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:10 |
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you're complaining about 20$ for an hour and a half of the best music ever?
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:30 |
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Wasn't complaining, just wondering if the extra cash was worth it actually, but Big Ups on being needlessly passive-aggressive!
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:40 |
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I have the single disk version and its as good as it gets as it features the best of the live concert. Theres only so much I can take of Magma live. However the studio albums are mesmirising and worth getting.
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:41 |
If you go to Hawaii (the big island) I think you can then throw yourself on some live magma for free. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:42 |
 40footwolf wrote:
Wasn't complaining, just wondering if the extra cash was worth it actually, but Big Ups on being needlessly passive-aggressive! |
Personally, I would go for as much Magma as I could get, regardless of price, but then again I consider them the best band in the history of music
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 18:03 |
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I wouldn't recommend Magma's 1975 live album as an introduction to the band. When I tried getting into Magma a couple of years ago I kept getting MDK and Live/Khai as an introductory recommendation, and they didn't work for me at all, on the contrary, it was too difficult for me and it put me off for Magma for a long time. And I've read other similar stories from other forum members. Do they have K.A, the 2004 studio album? That's what I'd recommend.
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40footwolf
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 18:13 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
I wouldn't recommend Magma's 1975 live album as an introduction to the band. When I tried getting into Magma a couple of years ago I kept getting MDK and Live/Khai as an introductory recommendation, and they didn't work for me at all, on the contrary, it was too difficult for me and it put me off for Magma for a long time. And I've read other similar stories from other forum members. Do they have K.A, the 2004 studio album? That's what I'd recommend.
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What do you mean by "difficult"? I have no problem with what many people consider "difficult" music like Mr. Bungle and Nurse With Wound and Koenjihyakkei, if that's what you mean. Or are they difficult in a different way?
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 18:17 |
Hi,
Nahhh ... go spend it on Brittany Spears or that Gaga thing! 
Magma is too much music for you and way out there in Kobiah land where no one knows what the story or the lyrics are all about anyway ...  ... after all the two ladies have nicer legs than Christian Vander, but I doubt that they can drum as good! ... well to be honest they do drum up your fantasies sometimes! 
Edited by moshkito - August 30 2010 at 18:20
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 18:22 |
40footwolf wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
I wouldn't recommend Magma's 1975 live album as an introduction to the band. When I tried getting into Magma a couple of years ago I kept getting MDK and Live/Khai as an introductory recommendation, and they didn't work for me at all, on the contrary, it was too difficult for me and it put me off for Magma for a long time. And I've read other similar stories from other forum members. Do they have K.A, the 2004 studio album? That's what I'd recommend.
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What do you mean by "difficult"? I have no problem with what many people consider "difficult" music like Mr. Bungle and Nurse With Wound and Koenjihyakkei, if that's what you mean. Or are they difficult in a different way? |
They were too avantgarde with a screechy jazz sound. Even today I still like more their current style rather than their classic sound, but I have come to terms with it.
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Posted: August 30 2010 at 18:23 |
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I do believe someone has been drinking tonight!
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Posted: August 31 2010 at 07:14 |
40footwolf wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
I wouldn't recommend Magma's 1975 live album as an introduction to the band. When I tried getting into Magma a couple of years ago I kept getting MDK and Live/Khai as an introductory recommendation, and they didn't work for me at all, on the contrary, it was too difficult for me and it put me off for Magma for a long time. And I've read other similar stories from other forum members. Do they have K.A, the 2004 studio album? That's what I'd recommend.
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What do you mean by "difficult"? I have no problem with what many people consider "difficult" music like Mr. Bungle and Nurse With Wound and Koenjihyakkei, if that's what you mean. Or are they difficult in a different way? |
I don't think you'll find the live album difficult given what you say. That album shows a bit of a jazz fusion side which isn't necessarily representative of the band's broader output. As it happens, that was my first Magma album. I too had the dilemma about which version to go for. If I recall, my problem at the time was availability rather than price. In the end, the long version became available on Amazon downloads so I bought that. (Later, because I liked it so much I ended up buying the CD anyway!) Shortly after getting that album, I heard MDK and that was the one that really grabbed me. I was sufficiently enthused to buy the 10CD box set (probably quite hard to come by now) and have subsequently bought a number of live albums and DVDs. I wonder if I hadn't heard MDK whether I would have got around to exploring futher than the live album which was more of a slow burner for me. Like harmonium.ro said, K.A. is relatively accessible and might not be a bad place to start. Certainly it is a great album. It is a more melodic work, however, that misses some of the darker aspects that were present in the earlier pieces. Finally, I have to disagree with AtomicCrimsonRush: Magma is a fantastic live band. Some of their live recordings are at least as good as their studio ones. There is a fair amount of material that is only available in live form. One of my favourite tracks, Hhai, was not available on a studio album until this year but is on the 1975 album that you are considering. And even with studio tracks, there are often interesting variations in the live versions.
Edited by ProgBob - August 31 2010 at 07:16
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Posted: August 31 2010 at 09:10 |
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As Bob says, a lot of Magma's live material is much more interesting than their studio stuff. I'm not a big fan, for example, of the studio version of Kohntarkosz, but I love the live version on Live/Hhai. I have the two-disc edition of that, and I'd say it's well worth it.
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Posted: August 31 2010 at 13:46 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
you're complaining about 20$ for an hour and a half of the best music ever?
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When was a ticket to a Michael Jackson concert ever $20!?! 
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