UK Politics

freedom-of-speech wrote: Still flogging the old Iraq war was it illegal nonsense to death. Why do parents and relatives of armed forces members still reel in shock when in times of war their loved ones get killed? Isn't it one of the hazards of the job? Good god the numbers who have been killed in Iraq/Afghanistan are insignificant to the soldiers who died in world war one, in an hour, or even world war two. Have our armed forces become so soft? Good on Blair for donating his profits to the British legion, i bet the tory numpties wouldn't...... Finally the war in Iraq would never ever be found illegal in any court in any part of the world...so get a different record people it's so yesterday.

James wrote: Diana - nothing was really confirmed Iraq War enquiry - same thing In the case of Ian Tomlinson, I think it's absolutely dreadful that the police officer hasn't been put in prison.

Diana - Nothing to confirm. Mitchell and Webb summed it up perfectly in this sketch t'other day:



Iraq War enquiry - If you mean the current one (Chilcot), it's ongoing and there have been quite a few interesting things to come out of it so far. We won't see Blair tried as a war criminal as a result, but if nothing else it will provide a wealth of material for future historians to go through and catalogue the manifold failings of the government and armed forces in the vain hope that humanity can sometimes learn from its mistakes.

And regarding David Kelly, yes there needs to be a new, thorough inquiry but it won't happen under this government and will have been permanently swept under the carpet by the next.

That's what I mean, David.  There's nothing official to confirm, just speculation.  The same applies to 9/11 (if you believe there are some dodgy things going on).

We'll never know the truth (let's face it, what we have been told isn't the truth).

freedom-of-speech wrote: Still flogging the old Iraq war was it illegal nonsense to death. Why do parents and relatives of armed forces members still reel in shock when in times of war their loved ones get killed? Isn't it one of the hazards of the job? Good god the numbers who have been killed in Iraq/Afghanistan are insignificant to the soldiers who died in world war one, in an hour, or even world war two. Have our armed forces become so soft? Good on Blair for donating his profits to the British legion, i bet the tory numpties wouldn't...... Finally the war in Iraq would never ever be found illegal in any court in any part of the world...so get a different record people it's so yesterday.

Edited by Rabid - August 22 2010 at 21:54

Scottish Independence.

That is all I want.

James wrote: But with Scottish Independence, how will the British Government have Prime Ministers?  A lot of them have been Scottish.

Clearly England, Wales, and Northern Ireland will have to produce some.

Indeed, there's a lot of Labour support in Scotland and without them, England would suffer with the Tories in power.

I can't see Scotland being able to support themselves anyhow.

Henry Plainview wrote: JJLehto wrote: Scottish Independence. That is all I want. I agree. I don't know anything about this issue, but as an American I am constitutionally bound to support the word independence in any form. Except for the secessionist parties in the US, those guys are crazy.

Yes! Exactly!
And I understand that pain. I am terribly sorry that conservatives would pretty much never leave control.
I'd hate to see that...
But I feel strongly about this.
Eventually people will have to get tired of them an vote labour back in.


Edited by JJLehto - August 22 2010 at 13:19

Henry Plainview wrote: If you aren't willing to get killed over something stupid you shouldn't join the military. It's still sad, of course, but every conflict in history has been kind of stupid, really.

 

James wrote: Indeed, there's a lot of Labour support in Scotland and without them, England would suffer with the Tories in power. I can't see Scotland being able to support themselves anyhow.