SR XX: Aqua Teen Shred Force

James wrote: Still Life is too amazing to play all of it live anyhow.  Hammill knows this. Besides, fans want the over-the-top stuff.  Not the amazing, minimalist, emotional perfection that is Still Life.

Sure.

If you're saying that Godbluff is over-the-top (especially in a bad way), you're completely wrong. Also, Still Life is not really that minimalist. To me, it seems as if the emotion is kind of forced. Not a bad thing, but previous VDGG releases had WAY more subtlety. House With No Door tops anything from Still Life.

SaltyJon wrote: Squid 1/Squid 2/Octopus is definitely my favorite VdGG track.

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I haven't heard it

James wrote: Oh and The Aerosol Grey Machine is awesome.  I used to play it a lot more than many of their other albums.

I quite like it too

Triceratopsoil wrote: SaltyJon wrote: Squid 1/Squid 2/Octopus is definitely my favorite VdGG track.  ' I haven't heard it James wrote: Oh and The Aerosol Grey Machine is awesome.  I used to play it a lot more than many of their other albums. I quite like it too

You need the remaster of H to He... with it as a bonus track, then.

Mmm...Samla Mammas Manna

And it's far more awesome than the boring ROVO. 

James wrote: Minimalist in terms of VdGG, I mean.  There's barely any solos of any kind on the album.  Nobody takes the limelight.  It's a full band effort.  Hammill was still awesome, of course but he created the VdGG masterpiece with that. By the way, Gabriel and Bern (an old P.A. member) both agree with me as well. I never said Godbluff was over-the-top in a bad way.  That'd be A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers which they never played live... except once when a Belgian Television company forced them into playing it. House With No Door is amazing, yes but it's not subtle at all.  It's a very grim song and it's obviously so.

That's my problem with it. It doesn't take any risks. Each track would work better SEPARATELY on other albums, but when they're all placed on the same record it gets kind of repetitive and old after the first side. It also goes on for, dare I say it, too long. I could care less whether it was a "full band effort" or not, the actual music is what matters to me.

That's nice. It also doesn't mean that either you or they are right.

Hmmm....I might agree here. A Plague takes some getting used to, and it is among the most inconsistent of VDGG's original tracks. I know Hammill wasn't satisfied.

I couldn't disagree more. Still Life is very emotional and abandons all subtlety in terms of that path, setting goals and limits that shouldn't be set. House With No Door is VERY subtle, and yet just prog enough for anyone to like it. It's one of VDGG's best.

James wrote: CinemaZebra wrote: James wrote: Oh and The Aerosol Grey Machine is awesome.  I used to play it a lot more than many of their other albums. It's boring and unoriginal. I got sick of it very soon. It's not. You should hear some of those tracks played by the classic lineup.  Mmm. Well, you've heard Giant Squid/Octopus, of course.  Plus Ferret and Featherbird is re-recorded by Hammill on one of his solo albums too. The only weak track is Necromancer. Orthenthian Street is awesome.  I love that track.

Sure it is.

I have.

Yup.

I suppose that's true.

Agreed.

So here I was looking at Samla Mammas Manna albums I don't have, and whaddya know...in the tracklisting of Dear Mamma:
12. Fredmans Session 1 (With Ruins) (3:46)
13. Fredmans Session 2 (With Ruins) (19:35)

Triceratopsoil wrote: Hey guys I heard music was objective

Me too. I'm just not in the mood to consider that, and James never is.

it's remarkable how sh*tty PT is now compared to some of their old stuff

D:

They could never make anything near as good as Moonloop again


Edited by Triceratopsoil - August 16 2010 at 00:31

Triceratopsoil wrote: it's remarkable how sh*tty PT is now compared to some of their old stuff

SO f**kING TRUE.

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