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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 17:24
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Andy Kaufman:
"On some occasions, audiences would show up to one of Kaufman's stage performances expecting to see him perform as his character Latka from the TV show Taxi where he had first become famous, and heckling him with demands when he did not. Kaufman would punish these audiences with the announcement that he was going to read The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald to them. The audience would laugh at this, not realizing that he was serious, and Kaufman would proceed to read the book to them, continuing despite audience members' departure. At a certain point, he would ask the audience if they wanted him to keep reading, or play a record. When the audience chose to hear the record, the record he cued up was a recording of him continuing to read The Great Gatsby from where he had left off."
 
Genius.

But Andy Kaufman, in his own words, was not a comedian. He was more of an ironic humorist. He found humor in more unconventional things, and enjoyed pushing himself to the limit, and other people's buttons. I realize he is widely regarded as a comedian, but I think he wanted us to consider him as something different, and out of respect, I think we should. 

But yes, that bit, much like everything he did, was absolute genius. Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 17:28
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

And that's Sean Lock done- bit plain but the "samba button" line was quite funny.
 
A bit plain? oh well good job we're all differentWink
 
Flag Hippo, Flag Hippo, Flag Hippo......  That;s gonna really irritate me now!Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 17:38
Yeah Andy Kaufman was more a humorous performance artist than a comedian but it's still humorous. There's also the show where he'd attempt to go to sleep and the entertainment/show was all in the audience's reaction it and attempts to keep him awake and interacting with them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 17:40
Oh I can't find it but I remember the Irish comedian Ed Byrne doing a lengthy segment on the lyrics to Alanis Morissette's hit song Ironic that had me in stitches. I remember seeing it and almost crying with laughter and marvelling at how he got so much material out of what you would think was a very limited topic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 18:17
Tommy Tiernan: Looking at the title I anticipated a lot of silly noises and not much else and that's what I got.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:18
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

that Herring tirade reminds me of Lenny Bruce fighting his censors in the early 60s

Yeah, it's not him at his funniest but he's trying to convey a message which isn't getting through the mainstream media, which was always Bruce's thing - in many ways I see Bruce more as a polemicist than a comedian (not that it isn't possible to be both, of course).


during his last days that's partly true due to the combination of harassment, legal problems and drug addiction--  but up till then, Bruce was a master stand-up comic that revolutionized how humor is conveyed to an audience; not politics, but humor.   Before Lenny [in the U.S.], stylistically, stand-up was mostly Milton Berle and Mort Sahl


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 20:04
I always loved Bruce's line about how his act died in front of British audiences: "It was like trying to get laughs out of Mount Rushmore."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 21:54
Originally posted by Noak Noak wrote:

I recently got into Mitch Hedberg, I was reluctant to him at first but he grew on me. Louis C.K is another guy I find really funny. I don't know very many stand-ups.
 
I love Louis CK. He puts me in tears every time. Best one out there today IMO.
 
Sadly Mitch Hedberg is the late great Mitch Hedberg
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 21:57
have you guys watched Louie?  It's pretty good


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:03
Henry Rollins was actually a surprisingly funny stand up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:09
Henry Rollins is hilarious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:12
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

have you guys watched Louie?  It's pretty good


 
 
It's really good


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:13
yeah it's one of the better comedies on

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:19
It wasn't stand up but I once saw David Hasselhoff do improv and he was surprisingly funny.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:26
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

It wasn't stand up but I once saw David Hasselhoff do improv and he was surprisingly funny.
   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 23:32
I wasn't joking btw, he really did some improvised comedy and it was genuinely good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 00:20
who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 01:34
Can we have sit-downs?
 
Tim Minchin, a rare occasion where he is standing up:
 
 
What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 05:58
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I've been working my way through the clips here (last one I saw was Vine, will try to get to the newer ones later) and I'm pretty disappointed. Hicks is easily the best so far (though he's not so much funny as he is awesome) and the Flag Hippo thing was amusing, though concluded poorly but the others... Lee's "not someone who works as a c**t" finish was hysterical but the wait wasn't really worth it, very slow and sedate. The chiselling thing is quite bold and Kaufmanesque but it's more funny in concept than practice. But I also liked "I remember you used to be able to put your whole family in the mincer and now they've banned Christmas!"
 
But yeah, the moon on a stick fell flat to me, Shappi was just poor generally and Maria's persona would be amusing as a character in a sketch but is insufferable in isolation.

Somewhere between the messianic worship of Hicks as the ultimate truth-teller and the backlash of those claiming he is overrated and thus crap, there is a comedian who was very good at what he did and pushed stand-up in new and fruitful directions. On a personal level though, he doesn't tend to thrill me.

I worried about using that Lee clip because, like all of his work, it's best kept in context. Lee tends to do long shows on a central theme which slowly build towards an often rather profound climax. Taken out of context the pace can seem arduous (having not had time to adjust) and the more challenging elements (like the 'chiseling' bit) tend to lose some of their impact. My advice is to go to gofasterstripe.com and buy his 90's Comedian DVD, and watch 70-or-so minutes of the finest stand-up ever committed to film.

A lot of the stuff other people have posted doesn't really work for me either. Never enjoyed Shappi Khorsandi's stuff and I don't tend to like American stand-ups at all. In fact, there is a pretty obvious divide in this thread between British and US comedians. I'd take Sean Lock or Dylan Moran any day over any of the US stand-ups mentioned so far, including Hicks.

Finally, that duck rape bit was pretty weak, IMO. Sorry to bang on about Stewart Lee, but watch how he tackles the same subject matter in this clip (it should start at about 5 and a half minutes in). He uses it as a way of exploring issues of religion, media accuracy and morality. The Irish bloke used it as an excuse to do a crude mime. Makes for a nice little comparison study, I think.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2010 at 06:14

I remember seeing Eddie Izzard live. He'd been super-hyped for me and I remember being disappointed by the early part of his act but he got better as he went on. He did the infamous "Englebert Humperdink is dead" thing which I thought was a very interesting bit because besides being funny it was again sort of experimental as it genuinely messed with audience heads. I'll also never forget his rendition of "God Attack The Queen". "Get away from me you crazy dogs!"

Proletariat: Thanks for finding that Ed Byrne clip, I thought it was hysterical.
 
 
This must be a truncated version he did for the show, live he expanded it immensely but I always admired him because you think it would get boring to do about a third of your show on Ironic but it wasn't at all, he really made it work. He also does a hilarious Eddie Vedder parody where he sings like Vedder and renders any song you like utterly imcomprehensible, as well as playing Pearl Jam songs and transcribing the lyrics phonetically for the audience.
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