Theism vs. Atheism ... will it ever be settled?

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 Proletariat wrote:

 JLocke wrote:

 Proletariat wrote:

 JLocke wrote:

 Proletariat wrote:

if you sayed "i believe in the easter bunny" 
I would say "okeydokeyhokeypokey"

perhaps I would chuckle... but I wouldnt try and prove you wrong necesarily... 

What if I were trying to pass laws that publicly forced people to support my crazy belief, integrating it into common law, public displays, school curriculum, your country's flag pledge, etc.? Would you feel a little more game to openly oppose me then? 
not if there were consiquences hahahaha i can move.... and you can make your beliefs importaint to culture but not to me. besides the idea of belief is silly. belief changes nothing. 

the easter bunny... and jesus are harmless enough for the most part. now there are extremes such as some of the anti gay legislation in uganda / ethnic cleansing. but I would be upset because of lives lost not because of the belief 

Then I guess I have nothing more to say to you. If all you would care about is whether or not my crazy laws affected you personally, then you're not the sort of person who I expect would care much about anything unless it somehow made your own life inconvenient. That's a shame, but there it is. 

There are consequences, friend. Maybe not for you, but for others. Certain groups of people aren't allowed to marry and are forced to lie in order to fight for their country. Children are being taught theology as if it were science, and are being given history books that have been omitted and re-worked. People are asked to mention the name of a sky-god whenever they salute their country's flag. Fictional doctrines such as the ten commandments were legally forced into remaining in a court house, a place meant for real law. A place where not just god-believers spend their time, but everybody else, as well. 

Where I come from, that's putting a gigantic wedge into a of people's freedoms. All of what I mentioned is happening or has happened in the USA. Just one country, and all that injustice. Persecution. Limitation. All because of an old book! Do you honestly not understand why some people like myself feel like the whole thing is grossly unfair and unjust? 

You may not notice the repercussions of silly beliefs in your day-to-day life, but the moment we allow those beliefs to start dictating how we run a free and equal country, it's ultimately leads to injustice. As I feel it has reached in my country. As I said only a post or two ago, I don't care if someone wants to believe in craziness on their own time. But when it gets to the point it is now, even if it doesn't hinder me personally, it does hinder people. And I'm going to oppose it, yes. Because I care about equal freedoms for all. I would absolutely love to see Christians keep on believing of that's how they choose to spend their lives, but this tradition on bending at the will of a religious group and allowing their life philosophies to run everybody else's lives has to stop. 

By the way, if there would ever come a time when Atheists started telling Christians they could no longer worship, or start taking away their rights, I would be on the Christians' side fighting against the Atheists in that case. I don't think one mindset dictating to the world is good, regardless if I happen to agree with the mindset or not.  
these practices have exsisted for thousands of years... and they are waning.
why worry about the pledge, the idea of loyalty to a country or significance of a piece of fabric is far more rediculous than religion.
Mariage is based purely on religion, paired mating exists in nature but rings and tax codes do not, so why not let religion controll its own silly invention (though I personally think marriage should not be a legal matter at all)
What is "real law" much of the ten commandments makes sence and is strait forward where "real law" is often not, besides the commandments have historical significance (though I feel Hamurabis Code would maybe be more apt)
As for your refrences to creation theory in public school. I live in Colorado and here creation theory is not mentioned in schools and if it is its mentioned as such "just so you all know when we teach evolution we are teaching what most experts think, we are not saying your religion, whatever it is, is wrong." perhaps in your state they teach religion as science, but I have never encountered this phenomina and therefore will refrain from commenting further.

to summerize my point: religion has never hurt me. I am not religious and dont agree with all religion related policy but I am also do not feel threatend in my daily life

I don't believe in marriage, or the concept of saluting a flag. But many other people who are not religious do. Can you not understand that? This isn't about your personal whatever, it's about freedom for all! As long as people want to get married, I'm going to support the concept that everybody should get married. The same idea applies to anything else you could throw at me. 

As for your last paragraph, I think we've already established that you couldn't give a damn about other people's lives being compromised. As long as you're not personally affected, the problem doesn't exist for you. It's your right to feel this way, but it is also my right to think that it's a very selfish, ignorant way of looking at the world. 