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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 14:17
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^ I'm not doubting you Iván - the book is frequently called the Book of Revelations in English too, though in English this is erroneous. I also notice that the alternative title in Spanish is Apocalipsis which (from google) appears to be singluar and plural.
 
Exactly, , even when the Bible refers to one Apocalipsis, gramatically can be use to define multiple apocalipsis, as a Fernando Sanchez Drago  mentions (in a segment about Borges)
 
Quote desde las guerras, desde los apocalipsis, desde el silencio y desde las ruinas,
 
From the wars, from the multiple "Apocalypse" , from the silence and from the ruins
 
From: Oro en la Piedra (A Tribute to Borges) Murcia 1967
 
 
As you well said Apocalipsis is a neutral noun that can be usesd as singular  and in plural depending on the artoicle that goes before  (In English you only use the article  "The" before a noun, no matter if it's feminine, masculine, singular or plural.......In Spanish you use "El" if it's singular and "Los" if it's plural, even more, if it's feminine you use" La" or "Las" depending if it's plural or singular).
 
A bit more complex.
 
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What is this fascination with the Book of Revelations? What happenned to The Book Of Psalms?
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 14:40
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ I'm not doubting you Iván - the book is frequently called the Book of Revelations in English too, though in English this is erroneous. I also notice that the alternative title in Spanish is Apocalipsis which (from google) appears to be singluar and plural.
 
Exactly, , even when the Bible refers to one Apocalipsis, gramatically can be use to define multiple apocalipsis, as a Fernando Sanchez Drago  mentions (in a segment about Borges)
 
Quote desde las guerras, desde los apocalipsis, desde el silencio y desde las ruinas,
 
From the wars, from the multiple "Apocalypse" , from the silence and from the ruins
 
From: Oro en la Piedra (A Tribute to Borges) Murcia 1967
 
 
As you well said Apocalipsis is a neutral noun that can be usesd as singular  and in plural depending on the artoicle that goes before  (In English you only use the article  "The" before a noun, no matter if it's feminine, masculine, singular or plural.......In Spanish you use "El" if it's singular and "Los" if it's plural, even more, if it's feminine you use" La" or "Las" depending if it's plural or singular).
 
A bit more complex.
 
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Curious stuff indeed. In English Apocalypse (singular) and Apocalypses (plural) and Greek Αποκάλυψης  (singular) and Αποκαλύψεις (plural). Tricky things translations, though in this case not stunningly important.
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What is this fascination with the Book of Revelations? What happenned to The Book Of Psalms?
Not apocalyptic enough - try The Book Of Daniel Wink 
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 15:08
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

What is this fascination with the Book of Revelations? What happenned to The Book Of Psalms?

The latter has awful lyrics for hypothetical terrible songs... The former has fire, trumpets, and Satan... Tongue
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How can this world be so f**ked up I f there is a God or the many Gods that are propoted to exist he' or she  got a pretty godddam sick ense of humour.
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A good question.......but it is not the world that is so f**ked up, but many homo sapiens that are so f**ked up.
 
As for no devine intervention considerering all the multitude of atrocities caused by homosapiens, yes I question that too.
 
Maybe it is that old fable about God cannot break the arch of time, or that mosque in Jerusalem which has not been knocked down yet to make way for a Jewish temple.
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Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

How can this world be so f**ked up I f there is a God or the many Gods that are propoted to exist he' or she  got a pretty godddam sick ense of humour.
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A good question.......but it is not the world that is so f**ked up, but many homo sapiens that are so f**ked up.
 
As for no devine intervention considerering all the multitude of atrocities caused by homosapiens, yes I question that too.
 
Maybe it is that old fable about God cannot break the arch of time, or that mosque in Jerusalem which has not been knocked down yet to make way for a Jewish temple.
The resolution of the Temple Mount/Dome Of The Rock issue is beyond the capabilities of man.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 03:33
Just watched this on YouTube ... very concise. I completely agree with it, and I recommend watching it to anyone who has been following this thread this far.
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 03:37
^ Sorry I shot him after 45 seconds
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 04:13
^ Well, at least you gave him a fair chance.LOL
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 04:58
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ Sorry I shot him after 45 seconds
Me too.
 
 
Might have been 44 seconds.Ermm
 
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LOL
 
''If you get into you head somehow that you're immune to fire, you might walk into a raging inferno and get your balls roasted to a crisp'' Yeah, that's gonna happen! 
 
''When you see a crazy homophobic psychopath out there on the street with signs against gay marriage... they are are a Christian''.  Just your average Christian then LOL 
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 11:53
^ Actually I disagree with him there ... they might as well be Muslims.Wink
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Points: 6795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 12:09
If that video doesn't convert you to Christianity, I don't know what well. I suddenly feel more Christian because of that video.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 12:11
^ How so?
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Points: 6795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 12:19
You hate the guy so much that you want to disagree with whether you're an atheist or not.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 12:21
^ I'm interest in which particular points that he makes you would object to.
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Points: 6795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 12:24
And I'm in no interest to say any mainly because I didn't get far enough through the video to the part where he made any points.
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 12:28
LOL Whatever, have it your way. Your first post seemed to imply that you watched the video though, which was why I kept asking for details. 
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Mike, I think what people are saying is that TheAmazingAtheist is a cocky a****le. 

I don't think you should keep posting his vids on here since you and I seem to be the only ones who enjoy them. LOL
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