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richardh 
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 Posted: November 02 2004 at 03:15 |
Rush are the ONLY seventies prog band still making decent albums.
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sigod
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 04:34 |
 Blacksword wrote:
Overated!! On yer bike, mate. 
Behold the greatest rock album ever recorded:
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Nah, you're quite right, Moving Piccys is fantastic but would you rather listen to the above or...
Face it. As much as you might (and indeed I might) hate to admit it, they are past their best 
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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sigod
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 04:42 |
ShrinkingViolet wrote:
sigod wrote:
Fish sl*gging of his fans as 'saddo geeks...
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*raised eyebrow..girlie curiosity aroused*
*coughs* .........*drumroll*.....ok Rush Are Overrated!!!!! way way way too much
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The Fish Geek story might need it's own thread 
BTW every vote on this poll that says they're not sure about Rush is a vote for Bush. Don't let him have another four more years... 
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 05:19 |
sigod wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Overated!! On yer bike, mate.
Behold the greatest rock album ever recorded:
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Nah, you're quite right, Moving Piccys is fantastic but would you rather listen to the above or...
Face it. As much as you might (and indeed I might) hate to admit it, they are past their best
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Hi sigod
Yes. They are past their best. I'm not disputing that for a minute. Question was, are they overated??
IMO. NO Their fans - like myself - may 'overate' them, but then again so do fans of Yes and ELP etc. The media, as with with all rock acts of a certain age, ridicule them.
Give me Moving Pictures any day. Roll the bones is not bad. (8/10)
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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sigod
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 07:03 |
Yes, I misunderstood Blacksword, sorry about that guv.
In that light I don't think that they're overrated (not any more than the big three, Yes, Genesis and The Jackson 5). It is notable however that Rush recently sold out an arena tour or the UK. Not many prog bands can still do that.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 07:46 |
sigod wrote:
Yes, I misunderstood Blacksword, sorry about that guv.
In that light I don't think that they're overrated (not any more than the big three, Yes, Genesis and The Jackson 5). It is notable however that Rush recently sold out an arena tour or the UK. Not many prog bands can still do that.
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Indeed they did. Good shows they were too, if a bit loud  They are certainly the only prog band whose amps go up to 11.
I reckon if Genesis reformed (properly with Gabriel & Hackett) they could do some huge shows.
As for the Jackson 5, well frankly I'm disgusted that the archives ignore them. Great prog heroes!
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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richardh
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 17:27 |
Arguably Rush were a bit overrated in the seventies (up to Hemispheres) getting caught between 2 stools (prog and metal).But then they really found their niche on albums like Moving Pictures.I also think their nineties albums are worthwhile although many question their prog credentials.My favourite Rush album is the live set 'Different Stages'.I can't think of any band now that packs such a punch in a live arena.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 17:51 |
If you listen to the 90's albums there is some really thoughtful stuff to enjoy.Obviously they do not carry the same punch as they did 20 yrs ago but then who does? They are not the type of band who "go through the motions" and their music has continued to evolve,but evolving away from prog rock.Maybe they should have their own niche -"tech-rock" or something similar.They are not prog rock any more and probably havent been prog rock apart from COS-AFTK.
It is reaaly insulting,I think, to judge Rush by the standards of others.They are unique and certainly do not intend to merely reproduce their most popular albums for the gratification of non-committed fans.
Tell me, what have Yes,Genesis, Elp or King Crimson been doing of note whilst Rush have been releasing their last half a dozen albums? Which crowds have The Ozric Tentacles, Porcupine Tree, Marillion or the Mars Volta been wowing? Could Dream theater fill the concert halls of Europe and the Americas? What oportunities have Rush had that were denied Anglagard, Echolyn, Fish or Steve Hackett?
Pray tell!
Every person has the right to dislike Rush, that's a matter of taste but I find it amazing that on a Prog Rock forum of all places,people are actually debating if Rush are overrated!
I remember Charles Shaar Murray of the NME once replying to a letter in that "esteemed" rag in the late seventies:"dont worry (John?) just think of all the people out there who cant tell the difference between Rush and sh*t!" Join the club.
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gdub411
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 18:12 |
I can't believe you people. This poll was designed just to have a bit of fun with Reed Lover. What a bunch of humorless twits! 
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 02 2004 at 18:41 |
gdub411 wrote:
I can't believe you people. This poll was designed just to have a bit of fun with Reed Lover. What a bunch of humorless twats! |
Just enjoying a bit of pontificating Greg. You should be more worried what i am going to do to you if Bush wins!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 05:51 |
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Velvetclown
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 06:11 |
I can never visit England again, Reed would kill me 
This massage was sponsored by REED-STALKERS UK 
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Velvetclown
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 06:24 |
Yes I think BUSH is Over-Rated 
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James Lee
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 06:50 |
especially Gavin. I don't know what Gwen sees in him.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 07:05 |
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Not forgetting his sister, Trevor.
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James Lee
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 07:10 |
Trevor?
forgive me, I thought I could keep up. 
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Velvetclown
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 07:12 |
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James Lee
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 08:00 |
I see snakes! Snakes everywhere!!
hehe, didn't see that the first time. Definitely my choice.
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sigod
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 08:14 |
Velvetclown wrote:
Yes I think BUSH is Over-Rated |
Hey, Bush is out there still putting out albums. Where are all the other presidents eh? Carter, Nixon, Regan have all just dropped off the face of the earth?
Bush still sells out arenas all over the world. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but as that esteemed rag 'The New York Post' put it 'People have to remember the difference between Bush and sh*t'
See what I did there?
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 03 2004 at 08:19 |
sigod wrote:
Velvetclown wrote:
Yes I think BUSH is Over-Rated |
Hey, Bush is out there still putting out albums. Where are all the other presidents eh? Carter, Nixon, Regan have all just dropped off the face of the earth?
Bush still sells out arenas all over the world. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but as that esteemed rag 'The New York Post' put it 'People have to remember the difference between Bush and sh*t'
See what I did there?
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Is Rush over-rated or what?
