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Luna 
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Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
 Topic: Turntable ShoppingPosted: August 02 2010 at 11:32 |
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Hello proggers! I am looking for a turntable on a very tight budget ($200>) I am looking for one that preferably can convert digitally to my computer, so any suggestions?
Edited by SolarLuna96 - August 02 2010 at 11:32 |
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:22 |
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I would avoid the cheap ones made by Ion and badged with various brands like Numark - they're not really up to "Prog" hi-fi standards.
Try the Project Essentials USB - it has USB connection to a PC and built-in Pre amp so you can plug it into any modern amp that doesn't have a phono input.... I have no idea how much they sell for in the USA - they're around £200 over here.
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Luna
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Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:34 |
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Thanks!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:37 |
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The old amplifier I was using croaked so I haven't been able to use my current turntable. Preamp recommendations anyone?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:40 |
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^ Got me there Brian - I use a battery powered one by QED but I think they've been out of production a long time now.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:50 |
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I find the USB turntables are overpriced for what they are. I use a conventional turntable, with a dedicated MP3 recorder plugged into my Amp. This can also record from cassettes and Mini discs too, this enabling the digitising of the entire collection.
Slarti, you can still get amps with a phono stage; otherwise I'm sure the likes of Tandy in the US will have them. In the UK, Richer Sounds supply a pre-amp. I don't think they're particularly clever devices, they just amplify the weaker signal.
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:56 |
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^ the pre-amps do the RIAA equalisation too Bob - without that it would sound 'orrible. My sound card has a software RIAA plug-in, but I've never tried it.
And of course you could just connect the tape-out of the hi-fi to the audio-in of the PC and do away with the dedicated MP3 recorder.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 13:02 |
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I tried recording to the PC via the sound card, but I found the results to be poor. I got the MP3 converter box from Maplin. It has a USB slot for a memory stick, phono inputs, and a CD drive. It's simple in its construction, but I find the results to be excellent.
(Didn't know about the RIAA bit Dean, presumably an amp with a phono stage does this too)
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 13:09 |
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I bought a sound card of sufficient quality to record direct to the PC - I couldn't do any music production without it - with all these things it's a question of level matching to get the best results. I find the tape-out signal is ideal for PC input.
This article from Audacity's wikisite gives a good explanation: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Transferring_tapes_and_records_to_computer_or_CD#Special_note_on_connecting_a_standalone_turntable
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Vompatti
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 13:10 |
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I've got the NAD PP-2 phono preamp. It doesn't cost much and does what it's supposed to do.
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 13:13 |
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^ I like NAD - they're like an elephant's bum - not neat, not pretty, but they're effective and do the job.
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Chris S
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 13:49 |
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Stupid question but can i just ask if you still have the ability to " fade" in and " fade" out with the MP3 recorders and also, what external port would you use on your amp if the aux port has been utilised by the mp3 recorder for instance?
I am about to venture into this arena for casette/vinyl digital conversion.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 13:55 |
I kind of figured as much, but I'm guessing a preamp will run me much less that a new amp. Anyway, not a problem I can't work out for myself. But suggestions are always valued.  |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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jammun
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Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: August 02 2010 at 21:05 |
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Take this for what it is worth (free advice). My old turntable (a belt drive) lost it's belt a few years ago. Looking for a replacement was a challenge. I finally ended up buying a Stanton turntable from Guitar Center for ~$200. The Stanton is primarily intended for club DJ's, which is to say it's a direct drive with among other accoutrements, a reverse button. I think it has a digital out, which I've not used, being that I do not have time to burn, I dunno, maybe 750 LP's to disk. Guess I could skip that BTO Greatist Hits, so it'd only be 749.
What's on my turntable? About a year's worth of CD's on top of it, being that I'm a lazy organizer. I am tempted to try reverse on the back-masked parts of FZ's WOIIFTM. I expect to lose my job in the next 6-8 weeks so I should have plenty of time on my hands to correct my current negligence.
The Stanton is a decent enough turntable. I mainly mention this as an option because reasonably priced turntables are getting harder and harder to find in yer usual stereo/hi-fi equiment store, but they are widely available in musical equipment stores, given that most people who make a living with music no longer actually play an instrument. The stores have stocked accordingly.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 05:15 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:53 |
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I'm looking for a new turntable myself.......Agree either you find a $100 one or a $1800 one, not much in the middle. I've been looking online since the BestBuys of the world do not carry turntables. I went to one high end video/audio place and they told me they only order them as needed...meaning they will buy online from like Needle Doctor and charge me double.
It would be nice to have the whole USB thing but not critical for me as in the past I used GrooveMechanic to convert vinyl to CD's...its probably an outdated software now but it actually worked pretty good for me. The noise reduction portion did a great job with some old hissy, popping vinyl I had.
I think it was Stanton that makes a pretty decent USB turntable.....I'm not sure what I want to buy though.
Technics are very high priced nowadays due to the DJ/Club demand for them...
mehh
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jimidom
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Joined: August 02 2007 Location: Houston, TX USA Status: Offline Points: 570 |
Posted: August 04 2010 at 10:19 |
 Rega P1 gets my vote. You can probably find a used one out there under $300. |
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jeniffer
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 04:27 |
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Hawkwise
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Joined: May 31 2008 Location: Ontairo Status: Offline Points: 4119 |
Posted: September 03 2010 at 18:58 |
to my pc in my studio room. oh and um All the USB Turntables ive heard suck.. Edited by Hawkwise - September 03 2010 at 19:02 |
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GaryB
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Joined: April 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 451 |
Posted: October 05 2010 at 13:23 |
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Last Christmas my daughter gave me a Sony PS-LX 300 USB turntable. It came with Sound Forge Audio Studio 9.0 software and cost about $250.
So far, I have put about 225 LPs onto disc and have been very satisfied with the quality of the CDs.
After recording the album into my computer Sound Forge performs a clean-up which removes surface noise (pops, cracks, hisses) and maximises the volume. Then you burn the CD and that's it.
The only problem I have found is that it doesn't always separate the tracks accurately. This is not really a problem unless you like to skip tracks during playback (you have to use fast forward).
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Thumbs up from me i like them so much i have two , one in my listening room, one in connected