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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 10:57
My views for what they are worth:

Pleasantly surprised by festival. attended sunday, good range of food, reasonable price, very few queues, good weather, and walked through Bethnal Green at night without getting mugged....a real result. In fact the only knife action I saw all night was Emerson stabbing his Hammond.

went sunday.

steve Hackett , excellent, would have loved to see more of him, and his bass player...wow!
Magnum - yawwn
Uriah Heep - really rather good, great to hear that album live.
Opeth - very good, though made mistake of being in row 2 surrounded by kids, spot the old fart!
Down n' outz - technically proficient but dull

ELP - expecting the very worst, but very pleasantly surprised, in fact really enjoyed their set. Lake's voice better than in '92, Palmer spot as as usual, but Emerson was much better than I expected. This guy has been through the mill and I was not sure he was even going to make this festival. You can see the fingers curled up on his right hand as he plays,He is never going to be able to play like he did in  '74, but i don't give a toss. If this is their swansong, which it may be, then they went out on a high note, and I was glad i was there to see it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 11:02
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

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^Don't agree with anything you say.


You don't agree that it wasn't a flame?
You don't agree I have a long history with the band?
You don't agree that time marches on?
You don't agree that musicians should write music for other musicians?

I don't get it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 11:09
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

My views for what they are worth:Pleasantly surprised by festival. attended sunday, good range of food, reasonable price, very few queues, good weather, and walked through Bethnal Green at night without getting mugged....a real result. In fact the only knife action I saw all night was Emerson stabbing his Hammond.went sunday.steve Hackett , excellent, would have loved to see more of him, and his bass player...wow!Magnum - yawwnUriah Heep - really rather good, great to hear that album live.Opeth - very good, though made mistake of being in row 2 surrounded by kids, spot the old fart!Down n' outz - technically proficient but dullELP - expecting the very worst, but very pleasantly surprised, in fact really enjoyed their set. Lake's voice better than in '92, Palmer spot as as usual, but Emerson was much better than I expected. This guy has been through the mill and I was not sure he was even going to make this festival. You can see the fingers curled up on his right hand as he plays,He is never going to be able to play like he did in  '74, but i don't give a toss. If this is their swansong, which it may be, then they went out on a high note, and I was glad i was there to see it.the end


Full respect for braving the Opeth mosh pit

Alan and I watched from a safe distance. Thankfully there were no severed limbs of ageing prog fans flying over our heads from the front. I did chuckle when Mr Ackerfeldt announced 'We are Poison rom LA, and I'm Bret Michaels'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 11:11
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

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Lakes voice is weak, Carl avoids the 'fills' that helped define not only his style but in some ways the genre itself, and Keith, well his runs aren't as fast or accurate s those of years past.

 

Lake's voice has changed in tone and he doesn't have the range he did (which is normal for singers of his age) but I wouldn't say his voice was "weak" yesterday. Fair point about Emerson, he can't do the faster runs but he has had wrist/hand problems. I actually thought Palmer was pretty impressive yesterday. We have to realise that "Welcome Back My Friends..." is over 30 years ago now, we can't expect these bands to be the same nowadays.


Yeah, I didn't think his voice was particularly weak. He was more in tune on Tarkus, than he was on the original..

Yep, Palmer sure hasn't lost it. He was and is a truly fantastic drummer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 11:14
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Lakes voice is weak, Carl avoids the 'fills' that helped define not only his style but in some ways the genre itself, and Keith, well his runs aren't as fast or accurate s those of years past.

 

Lake's voice has changed in tone and he doesn't have the range he did (which is normal for singers of his age) but I wouldn't say his voice was "weak" yesterday. Fair point about Emerson, he can't do the faster runs but he has had wrist/hand problems. I actually thought Palmer was pretty impressive yesterday. We have to realise that "Welcome Back My Friends..." is over 30 years ago now, we can't expect these bands to be the same nowadays.


Yeah, I didn't think his voice was particularly weak. He was more in tune on Tarkus, than he was on the original..

Yep, Palmer sure hasn't lost it. He was and is a truly fantastic drummer.

I saw Palmer with Asia last year.,.....he was...still is...an excellent drummer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 14:32
Carl's and Keith's fluency is nowhere near what it was and this a definite problem when you are playing weighty instrumental peices like Pictures and Tarkus. What was telling is when they started Pictures and it had some real intent. But what followed was pretty dull to be honest. Carl is an excellent drummer nowadays but in the seventies was almost godlike and no one would have dared to say then he was merely 'excellent' then. Unfair to criticse? Perhaps given that time marches on but as I said when you play long instrumental peices it needed a bit more. But I wasn't surprised.ELP had to put on a show as much like the seventes as they could. This festival was a nostalgia trip pure and simple.Until someone invents a time machine it will do very nicely!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 14:42
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Carl's and Keith's fluency is nowhere near what it was and this a definite problem when you are playing weighty instrumental peices like Pictures and Tarkus. What was telling is when they started Pictures and it had some real intent. But what followed was pretty dull to be honest. Carl is an excellent drummer nowadays but in the seventies was almost godlike and no one would have dared to say then he was merely 'excellent' then. Unfair to criticse? Perhaps given that time marches on but as I said when you play long instrumental peices it needed a bit more. But I wasn't surprised.ELP had to put on a show as much like the seventes as they could. This festival was a nostalgia trip pure and simple.Until someone invents a time machine it will do very nicely!

Ok...he's better than excellent then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 14:50

BTW I'm pleased that people enjoyed ELP's performance. I know Blacksword is not the biggest ELP fan so his positive comments are very welcome. I think in general ELP went down great and put on the sort of show that only they could. The festival needed to be ended with a bang and it literally was!

 
Other bands I saw
 
Wishbone Ash - Found them a bit boring
Steve Hackett - Superb band performance ,extremely tight. Seemed to have some sound problems towards the end though which was annoying.
Uriah Heep - Came across as a parody of prog rock. Sorry!
Argent - Sheer class. Set pleasing collection of songs including Its Only Money,I don't Believe In Miracles,She's Not There,Since You've Been Gone,Hold Your Head Up and of course God Gave Rock n Roll to You when they went to great pains to explain that they were the band that recorded this orginally!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 15:09
I saw elp in 74 and bought t shirt and said I would only wear at elp gig so it came out sunday, elp were brill few sound probs accepted. Bring on tour fellas
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 16:18
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I'm pleased that people enjoyed ELP's performance. I know Blacksword is not the biggest ELP fan so his positive comments are very welcome. I think in general ELP went down great and put on the sort of show that only they could. The festival needed to be ended with a bang and it literally was!


 

Other bands I saw

 

Wishbone Ash - Found them a bit boring

Steve Hackett - Superb band performance ,extremely tight. Seemed to have some sound problems towards the end though which was annoying.

Uriah Heep - Came across as a parody of prog rock. Sorry!

Argent - Sheer class. Set pleasing collection of songs including Its Only Money,I don't Believe In Miracles,She's Not There,Since You've Been Gone,Hold Your Head Up and of course God Gave Rock n Roll to You when they went to great pains to explain that they were the band that recorded this orginally!

 


There's hope for me yet, Richard. I've listened to a lot of ELP today..!

Even dug out my DVD of 'Welcome Back'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 16:58
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:


steve Hackett , excellent, would have loved to see more of him, and his bass player...wow!



I hope the comments about the bass player are directed at bass playing talent rather than attractiveness. I believe under the blond plaits and leather skirt, Steve Hackett said it was Nick Beggs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 17:04
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I'm pleased that people enjoyed ELP's performance. I know Blacksword is not the biggest ELP fan so his positive comments are very welcome. I think in general ELP went down great and put on the sort of show that only they could. The festival needed to be ended with a bang and it literally was!

 
Other bands I saw
 
Wishbone Ash - Found them a bit boring
Steve Hackett - Superb band performance ,extremely tight. Seemed to have some sound problems towards the end though which was annoying.
Uriah Heep - Came across as a parody of prog rock. Sorry!
Argent - Sheer class. Set pleasing collection of songs including Its Only Money,I don't Believe In Miracles,She's Not There,Since You've Been Gone,Hold Your Head Up and of course God Gave Rock n Roll to You when they went to great pains to explain that they were the band that recorded this orginally!
 

I know what you mean about Uriah Heep, but I really enjoyed them. However I do wish I'd seen Argent now. That's the problem with a festival with three stages. Oh well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 17:24
My Highlights 

Martin Turners Wishbone Ash - a really tight performance of one of the pioneering heavy metal albums of all time and an appearance by Ted Turner very welcome and enjoyable.

Steve Hackett - one of my all time heroes and his set was short but so tight, and for a 5 song set it covered everything you could want to hear from Steve, Every Day and Los Endos were highlights and a typically tight performance of Ace of Wands.

Emerson, Lake and Palmer - The festival headliner and oh what a show they gave us. There is no part of their catalogue they didn't visit, if you loved the first album they performed almost every track (other than the Three Fates). And a never before heard version of Tarkus in it's entirety featuring a piano solo version of Eruption. The hits were all played Fanfare for the common Man, Lucky Man and Touch and Go, with From The Begining and Farewell To Arms thrown in. The big highlight for me was the immortal moment "WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION" and it was a perfect version. They did parts of side one which havn't been played live since 1972, a keyboard and vocal version of The Sage a big surprise which had the whole audience singing, and two enormous cannons set off at the end of The Great Gates of Kiev which gave the perfect finale. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 17:27
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I'm pleased that people enjoyed ELP's performance. I know Blacksword is not the biggest ELP fan so his positive comments are very welcome. I think in general ELP went down great and put on the sort of show that only they could. The festival needed to be ended with a bang and it literally was!

 
Other bands I saw
 
Wishbone Ash - Found them a bit boring
Steve Hackett - Superb band performance ,extremely tight. Seemed to have some sound problems towards the end though which was annoying.
Uriah Heep - Came across as a parody of prog rock. Sorry!
Argent - Sheer class. Set pleasing collection of songs including Its Only Money,I don't Believe In Miracles,She's Not There,Since You've Been Gone,Hold Your Head Up and of course God Gave Rock n Roll to You when they went to great pains to explain that they were the band that recorded this orginally!
 

I know what you mean about Uriah Heep, but I really enjoyed them. However I do wish I'd seen Argent now. That's the problem with a festival with three stages. Oh well.

maybe it was because i was beginning too get a little restless by the time Uriah Heep came on but they really did bore me and i agree came across as a bit of a parody. I loved the album first time i heard it but live it came across as a little insincere
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2010 at 17:35
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I'm pleased that people enjoyed ELP's performance. I know Blacksword is not the biggest ELP fan so his positive comments are very welcome. I think in general ELP went down great and put on the sort of show that only they could. The festival needed to be ended with a bang and it literally was!


 

Other bands I saw

 

Wishbone Ash - Found them a bit boring

Steve Hackett - Superb band performance ,extremely tight. Seemed to have some sound problems towards the end though which was annoying.

Uriah Heep - Came across as a parody of prog rock. Sorry!

Argent - Sheer class. Set pleasing collection of songs including Its Only Money,I don't Believe In Miracles,She's Not There,Since You've Been Gone,Hold Your Head Up and of course God Gave Rock n Roll to You when they went to great pains to explain that they were the band that recorded this orginally!

 


There's hope for me yet, Richard. I've listened to a lot of ELP today..!

Even dug out my DVD of 'Welcome Back'

First time I ever saw you with a new avatar!!Shocked

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 04:09
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I'm pleased that people enjoyed ELP's performance. I know Blacksword is not the biggest ELP fan so his positive comments are very welcome. I think in general ELP went down great and put on the sort of show that only they could. The festival needed to be ended with a bang and it literally was!


 

Other bands I saw

 

Wishbone Ash - Found them a bit boring

Steve Hackett - Superb band performance ,extremely tight. Seemed to have some sound problems towards the end though which was annoying.

Uriah Heep - Came across as a parody of prog rock. Sorry!

Argent - Sheer class. Set pleasing collection of songs including Its Only Money,I don't Believe In Miracles,She's Not There,Since You've Been Gone,Hold Your Head Up and of course God Gave Rock n Roll to You when they went to great pains to explain that they were the band that recorded this orginally!

 


There's hope for me yet, Richard. I've listened to a lot of ELP today..!

Even dug out my DVD of 'Welcome Back'

First time I ever saw you with a new avatar!!Shocked


Time for a change, methinks.. !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 04:58
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 05:47
Originally posted by Wilcey Wilcey wrote:

Did nobody go on Saturday? 
 
Yep! Highlight of the day was Transatlantic who played 'The Whirlwind' in its entirety. They were joined on stage by Steve Hackett for an encore of 'Giant Hogweed'. Whilst it was a nice surprise I'd have preferred one of their songs!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 06:28
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Originally posted by Wilcey Wilcey wrote:

Did nobody go on Saturday? 
 
Yep! Highlight of the day was Transatlantic who played 'The Whirlwind' in its entirety. They were joined on stage by Steve Hackett for an encore of 'Giant Hogweed'. Whilst it was a nice surprise I'd have preferred one of their songs!
 
I was gutted to miss Transatlantic (and Pendragon of course) but I bought my ticket before the split was announced. I was even more gutted to find out that Hackett played with them. Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 06:50
There were things on both days I wanted to see, just more of them on Sunday, and I couldn't justify shelling out for both days. I would have liked to have seen Pendragon and Transatlantic. I'm kind of pleased I was not in any danger of being subjected to ZZTop. There's something about that act that creeps me out, brings me out in a rash and then sends me off into a very deep sleep.
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