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Poll Question: Which woman in PA is the most remarkable, influential or likeable?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 16:32

I went with the obvious here Annie Haslam; however, I must admit that the ethereal voice of Rachel Jones (specifically in the Dark Angel release) does cause my blood pressure to both drop and rise at the same time Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 16:42
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

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Where is Stella Vander and Anna Holmgren?
Stella Vander isn´ t too significant for order to this list.  The same governs about Miss Holmgren, because Anglagard was mostly instrumental band.
 
Just remember that there are 25 places here only!
 
You may be right for Anna but I think that if it was not of Stella, Magma would not sound so good and special.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 16:43
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Miss Haslan from Renaissance, or Kate bush, if you count her. You didn't include her so I don't know. I also have a thing for Bjork.
Björk isn´t in PA, I don´t know why. Kate Bush is in Prog Related subgenre, that means not Prog at all...


Bjork has been suggested but met resistance.  I've supported her inclusion -- particularly based on Medulla, but what is includable is quite often subjective.

As for an artist's music not being Prog because it's in Prog Related, that is not accurate.  Not only are notions of Prog subjective, but there are albums in Prog Related that were determined by individuals to be Prog, but the complete discography issue posed a problem.  There's also lots of proggy music in Prog-Related.  As to the degree, that depends on certain individuals.  As I like to say, bands/artists aren't Prog, music is, but the degree often depends on the behearer 9and in some cases the category is based on limited listening.  Had other music been listened to, it would be in a different category.  Quite a few acts have been moved from Prog Related to Prog categories upon further evaluation/ arguments. Opinions vary.  People disagree on what is Prog and what is acceptable and where music should go.  I don't think of Kate Bush as good for a Prog category (and I used to be a big fan), but she does have proggy music.  Prog by degree.

I know you only had so much space, but I think it a shame to exclude so many categories.  Most of my favourites are in RIO/ Avant, and quite a few in Zeuhl (The Eskaton singers are terrific as is Yamamoto Kyoko), as well as other categories you omitted; however, there is an other option, so I'm not complaining.  Woe be it to someone who leaves off Dagmar Krause, though. :)

Barbara Gaskin is the stand-out from your list.  I don't like Haslam's voice.  There are various similar folk ones that I much prefer such as Vashti Bunyan (not that she's Prog).

I'm giving a vote to Haco of After Dinner just cause I feel like it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 16:51
Originally posted by PabstRibbon PabstRibbon wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by PabstRibbon PabstRibbon wrote:

Where is Stella Vander and Anna Holmgren?
Stella Vander isn´ t too significant for order to this list.  The same governs about Miss Holmgren, because Anglagard was mostly instrumental band.
 
Just remember that there are 25 places here only!
 
You may be right for Anna but I think that if it was not of Stella, Magma would not sound so good and special.
As I´ve  written above, I´ve been obliged  to eliminate some subgenres because every poll places are limited. Magma is Zeuhl, this is a marginal subgenre here. I´m sorry...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 17:29
Interesting, I´ve  thought about a list which would be acceptable for a wide spectrum of Prog listeners. Therefore I´ve eliminated some marginal subgenres. However, most of forum members suggest me female artists just from these subgenres now. Isn´t it a paradox? Confused
 
(Maybe all Symphonic/Folk/Eclectic/Heavy Prog fans are just sleeping, while RIO, Zeuhl and Metal fans are awaken!Wink)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 17:40
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by PabstRibbon PabstRibbon wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by PabstRibbon PabstRibbon wrote:

Where is Stella Vander and Anna Holmgren?
Stella Vander isn´ t too significant for order to this list.  The same governs about Miss Holmgren, because Anglagard was mostly instrumental band.
 
Just remember that there are 25 places here only!
 
You may be right for Anna but I think that if it was not of Stella, Magma would not sound so good and special.
As I´ve  written above, I´ve been obliged  to eliminate some subgenres because every poll places are limited. Magma is Zeuhl, this is a marginal subgenre here. I´m sorry...
 
Ahah no problem !Wink By the way I went with Anna Sofi Dahlberg as I think that she is a big part of the Anekdoten sound (If not the most important) and that Anekdoten is one of my favourite band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 18:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 18:55
How about Julie Slick, the amazing bass player in the Adrian Belew Power Trio. She has to be considered one of the very best bass players alive today and very progressive as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 19:03
Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

How about Julie Slick, the amazing bass player in the Adrian Belew Power Trio. She has to be considered one of the very best bass players alive today and very progressive as well.


Bass to bassoon segue:

Lindsay Cooper was great on the bassoon (and oboe), and a talented composer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 19:54
What about Christina Booth from Magenta and ChimpanA(also new solo album) !!!
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 20:06
Stella Vander or Georgie Born or Lindsay Cooper or Ruth Underwood or Gilli Smyth.  Since Gilli's on the poll, I'll give her my vote, but she's probably the one I would have put in last out of those five. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 20:30
Oh, and I forgot the already mentioned Dagmar Krause and Renate Kraup. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2010 at 21:06
Annie Haslem definitely, just an amazing vocalist Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 02:11
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Annie Haslem definitely, just an amazing vocalist Thumbs Up
Thanks for not suggest any (in my opinion) marginal female artists incl. percussionist, bassist etc. By the way, I think you´re only one woman in my forum and one of the few ones in PA, isn´t it? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 03:49
Hey I'm sorry, but Sacha van Geert of Supersister is a man! I voted for Gilli Smith of Gong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 05:44
I agree with Logan that I would have liked to see more of the Avant/RIO crowd here, actually in general they have more great female vocalists than symph/neo prog, imo anyway.  I would certainly have rather had Stella Vander, Ann Stewart or who's-that-Koenjikhyaai-singer rather than Jane Duboc or Sonja Kristina who are tbh nothing great (again, this is IMO Wink).  Doesn't really matter, my vote would have gone for Annie Haslam either way, which is where it obviously went here too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 06:12
Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

Hey I'm sorry, but Sacha van Geert of Supersister is a man! I voted for Gilli Smith of Gong.
So, you´re right, I apologize! I´ve replaced him by Christina Murphy, she´s a woman without doubt.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 06:34
 
I´m sorry, but her vocal is dissonant for me. Besides, she isn´t nice at all. I don´t mean that Ms. Krause is a good suggestion here.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 06:56
Mia Matsumiya from Kayo Dot is my personal pick.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2010 at 07:46
Anneke from the Gathering might be the most important from the metal side of things...
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