Theism vs. Atheism ... will it ever be settled?

BaldFriede wrote: Mr ProgFreak wrote: BaldJean wrote: nor do any of your arguments have any support outside scripture, Mike. and don't throw Occam's razor at me, Mike; that principle does not apply here, as you should very well be aware of Of course Occam's Razor applies ... that's as certain as the rule that you should end sentences with a full stop. Sorry, Mike, but Jean is quite right: The principle is not applicable in this case. Look up Occam's razor and the conditions under which it can be applied.

As usual, you speak in riddles. Well, maybe you could add your opinion on Occam's Razor to its Wikipedia page.

thellama73 wrote: JJLehto wrote: Don't know anything about it except the only time I hear Occam's razor brought up it is by pretentious asshats that throw out pseudo intellectual BS. And im not being silly, thats really the only time I hear someone use it. That's because it doesn't really work in most real world scenarios and is easily abused to try to prove things that aren't true.

Like ... evolution?

^ I was merely asking which real life things you've seen Occam's Razor being applied to.

BTW: You can't really use it to prove anything ... it's merely a rule of thumb that you can use as an indication which of several possible theories for any given problem is most likely true.

And @ the bald couple: I won't grace your childish campaign of ridicule with a direct answer.

As usual you just wriggle. Well, Mike, I will tell you why Occam's razor is not applicable. I know you are a disciple of the big bang fraction. Well, what is the big bang? It is a singularity in space-time in which all the laws of physics as we know them did not work. Let us repeat this again: All the laws of  physics as we know them did not work.
The big bang being a singularity is contrary to one of the basic assumptions of science: That the laws of physics are the same in the whole universe.
Now I want you to tell me how the principle of Occam's razor favours the big bang over a deity which says "Let there be light". Actually both statements are fully equivalent.


Edited by BaldFriede - July 20 2010 at 16:08

Mr ProgFreak wrote: ^ I was merely asking which real life things you've seen Occam's Razor being applied to. BTW: You can't really use it to prove anything ... it's merely a rule of thumb that you can use as an indication which of several possible theories for any given problem is most likely true. And @ the bald couple: I won't grace your childish campaign of ridicule with a direct answer.

if anyone is acting childish it is you, Mike

Let's create a Dictionary thread... we put words and expressions we can't understand and someone explains the meanings... 

The T wrote: Let's create a Dictionary thread... we put words and expressions we can't understand and someone explains the meanings...

That's the best idea I have heard all day.

^that was pretty good too, but as a libertarian, I can't support anything the post office does. 

you should spend a few months in another country.. "Mail? We don't need no stinking mail."

Atavachron wrote: you should spend a few months in another country.. "Mail? We don't need no stinking mail."

That's right - go global