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Finnforest
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 19:04 |
Gosh this album is really cool, I may have underrated it. Given the time it came out, I find it every bit as enjoyable and impressive as Orme's Collage. I think those who like the early "Beat to RPI" era need to hear this one. I love it.
Il Mucchio Il Mucchio Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
Finnforest
A pioneer of the RPI scene
Il Mucchio were not exactly well known but they are historically important as one of the early entries on the Italian progressive scene, their lone album being released in the Spring of 1970. They hailed from Venice and were active from 1970-1974 before returning for a brief reunion in the mid 90s, but this was their only full-length album. It is important because it is a bridge album from the beat and psych-pop sounds of the late 60s to the classic RPI era, incorporating classical influences and the beginnings of progressive experimentation. Sjef Oellers writes "Il Mucchio plays organ-soaked proto-progressive, sounding like a cross between Moody Blues and early Manfred Mann/Spencer Davis Group." And while other sources out there claim the album is nothing special I have to say I found it much more enjoyable than I thought I would. It's probably not quite as good as Panna Fredda but that would be a decent reference point as well. With material written by composer/singer Dino Donaggio, Il Mucchio forges their unique sound by using dual-keyboards and a strong bass guitar presence, but very little prominent electric guitar. The keys are mostly organ but there is harpsichord, piano and some other odd sound I can't place. The second component of the sound is the distinctive upper-register vocals, both solo and in frequent chorus, that are straight out of the New Trolls playbook. Though to my taste they sound much more authentic to me than do the Trolls glass-cracking hysterics. The vocals are very professionally arranged and on their own are quite a treat to listen to. The compositions are pleasant and of pretty good quality although only sporadically reaching beyond period psych-rock and beat. You hear them go for it in "Qualcuno Ha Ucciso" which features tribal rhythms and wild noises mixed with classical piano, lovely Hammond, and those amazing vocal arrangements. There are still catchy hooks though even on the more avant sections the band is keeping one foot in each universe. And that sums up most of the album: it is simply a pleasant blend of vintage keyboards and wonderful vocals in engaging but not overly complex tracks. The other highlight of this album is an absolutely breathtaking version of Schubert's "Ave Maria" that was worth the price of admission alone. If you took away the rock drumming that eventually gets upbeat, vocally the piece could be used for Sunday service, very respectful and yet interesting. From here the album closes with some bluesy organ workout in "Questi Siamo Noi" that would be fertile ground for Ritchie Blackmore to step in and wail on.but Il Mucchio just brings in another keyboard rather than the expected guitar-blazing. Some will be put off by this but personally I found the approach unique and didn't miss the guitars for a second. It's more evidence to the quality level of RPI when even the 2nd and 3rd tier bands are consistent and quality enough for 3 solid stars. You have to dig even deeper to start finding 2 stars albums. Mellow Records has done a nice job with the sound quality on MMP-166 although the booklet is a scant foldover. Their later singles are included as the four bonus tracks. Edited by Finnforest - July 19 2010 at 19:04 |
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 01:51 |
That's another one for my list then, Jim. Funnily enough I was listening to Panna Fredda just yesterday. Randone is a guy that's interesting me just now... I don't usually like working backwards with artists, but will probably check out Linea Di Confine first. |
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Todd
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 01:53 |
Il Mucchio is very good indeed, though as Jim says not as good as the marvelous Panna Fredda.
I enjoy Randone's Hybla. I just came across a copy of Ricordo, but I haven't heard it yet. The others I'm excited to hear. I look forward to hearing your impressions, Chris!
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 02:00 |
Thanks Todd!
Tenuous link... but on my shopping list is Ricordi by Lagartija, I remember you reviewed that one yourself recently.
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Todd
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 08:54 |
I think you'll really like Lagartija! They are now being distributed by BTF as well as by Synphonic, so that bodes well for them.
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macromarco
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 09:19 |
Nightfly
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 14:24 |
Hi Marco, from the review I read your music sounds very interesting and could well be worthy of inclusion on PA. It sounds promising for RPI. To consider it we would need to hear it. If you could point us somewhere we could hear it or alternatively send a cd to one of the RPI team we would be happy to evaluate it for inclusion.
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macromarco
Forum Newbie Joined: December 26 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Posted: July 20 2010 at 16:56 |
Hi, Nightfly. Time ago I have sent a copy of "Il pianeta degli uomini liberi" to 1967/ 1976, and he said me several times he will write a review about it. I have seen he is not writing on this forum for a long time, and I don't want to make any pressure, I hope really is everything fine with him.
Meantime I give you my website links where you can look around about my activities:
and you can listen to pieces of my songs here:
and here:
I hope you'll enjoy it.
Ciao.
Marco
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 17:23 |
Hi Marco, Thanks for the links to your music/website and I'll give it a listen. Before anyone can submit reviews of your album you will have to be included in the PA database and submitted to a specific genre like RPI, symphonic etc. I'll speak to the other guys in the RPI team about it and we'll listen to your music and decide if it fits in with the scope of RPI. If not it may be more suited to another genre but obviously we can't say until we listen.
If you get accepted then you will get added to the database and anyone will be able to do reviews of your albums then. To see what I mean have a look at some of the other bands here.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 20 2010 at 18:35 |
i believe they were eval'd already but will have to check my notes this weekend. can't type much now, this puter really sucks.
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: July 21 2010 at 02:39 |
^ The team's discussion is on Page 142 of the Villa thread
Here's the link to the original suggestion:
Hope this helps.
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 21 2010 at 07:09 |
^ Cheers Chris.
we await your return Jim.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 21 2010 at 08:25 |
vault!
Prismosfera StereoKimono Psychedelic/Space Rock Review by
Cesar
Inca
For their sophomore release, the excellent Italian ensemble Stereokimono
provided an
enhancement of their musical path as stated in their debut "Ki". This
time, "Prismosfera"
comprises a repertoire in which the threesome show an increase of both
energy and
experimental trend, which eventually leads to an awesome opus within the
realms of
avant-garde prog. Their self-imposed psychofonic oblique label is
nothing but an
energetic combination of 80s King Crimson, jazz-rock with a funky core,
psychedelia
with moderate electronic leanings and ethnic sensibilities that come to
the fore
occasionally. What can go wrong when the group stays cohesive and their
sound
becomes stronger? 'Onda Beta' is the opener that has to set the initial
mood for all
things to come afterwards. It kicks off with a set of oppressive,
sinister synth layers
and sound effects before the main motif erupts, mixing neurotic and
joyful
vibes. 'Rosso di Luna' is a bit less explosive, more oriented toward the
reflective,
something that is easy to notice from the evocative guitar leads and
keyboard
ornaments, as well as the splendid electric piano solo that emerges
somewhere in the
middle: yet, it's not a languid number really, but an excuse to make the
jazz element
more noticeable. 'Bahnhofstrasse' finds the band exploring the virtues
of ethnic-infused
jazz fusion based on Arabic ambiences. The midi sounds emulating cello
and violin
create a beautiful sonic architecture sustained firmly by the
ever-efficient rhythm
section. Once again, the synth effects come by to provide some sort of
mystic feel (to
some degree, like the Ozrics or classic Gong), especially during the
track's second half,
in which the tempo shifts to a faster pace. 'Xetrov 5' is the aggressive
apex in the
album, starting with a dark synth-based soundscape and then following
with a very
RIO-esque motif built on a challenging 5/4 tempo. Things get a bit
closer to Present and
other robust RIO acts. 'L'Uomo Nuvola' is yet another exhibition of
typical psychofonic
oblique rock, albeit with a sleight added touch of pop that allows the
main melody be
easily noticeable and get its hooks on the listener. Attention to the
beautiful clarinet
solo - is it a midi guitar trick? Also attention to the jolly country
coda, which brings an
air of easygoing relief to the band's bizarre musical vision.
'Salamandra' makes things
get aggressive again, with a massive display of hard-rock colors on a
funky basis: it
almost equals the dark approach of 'Xetrov 5'. The last piece in the
strictly musical
collection is the ethnic 'La Soffitta Volante', which gradually keeps on
growing from a
mesmeric succession of acoustic guitar chords, percussive ornaments and
keyboard
layers all the way until the final climax, full of frenzy and mystery.
The album's last 4
minutes are occupied by a series of old prog and art-rock classic
albums' samplers: spot
pieces of material from Yes, Pink Floyd, Gentle Giant, Genesis,
Tangerine Dream, King
Crimson, Gong, Camel, Area, ELP,. floating by among the birds in the
forest. A
homage to the old stuff made by one of the most amazing prog acts of the
new
millennium. General conclusion: "Prismosfera" is a real contemporary
masterpiece.
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Todd
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 19:27 |
If you're a fan of free improvisation with absolutely no composotional structure, you might try N.A.D.M.A.'s album, "Paura." Otherwise stay very very far away. |
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CPicard
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 19:37 |
^This is relevant to my interests.
Who plays in this band and which label released it? |
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Todd
Special Collaborator RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
Posted: July 23 2010 at 13:14 |
The musicians in N.A.D.M.A. are no one you've ever heard of--they were active in 1972 and 1973, then disbanded and most left music altogether. This list is taken from the italianprog.com website:
Marco Cristofolini (violin, percussion)
This is the label that released their live album (recorded 1973, released 2006), from the same site: Alga Marghen (ALGA060CD)
You can buy mine for cheap!
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 15:05 |
Vault Pick:
Portable Madness Sensations' Fix Psychedelic/Space Rock Review by listen
Very trippy, spacey and trancey and pretty electronic. I'd call the
music at different times (or often simultaneously) Psychedelic Space
Rock, Progressive Electronic, Psychedelic Krautrock, Psych Ambient, and
Kraut Symphonic Prog, as well as rock, jazz, electronic, blues, soul,
folk and funk. I hear (across this album (1974), 'Fragments of Light'
(1974) and 'Finest Finger' (1976)--the three i've heard) similarities to
Ashra, Pink Floyd, Ash Ra Tempel, A.R. & Machines, Genesis,
Hawkwind, Nektar, Eloy, Black Sabbath, Fripp/Eno, Agitation Free,
Brainticket, Kalacakra, Popol Vuh, and some Japanese psych perhaps, as
well as a number of bands I can't yet put my finger on. Their sound
manages to be fresh and distinct from each of these bands, with a very
creative and original musical sensibility. Some of the electronic parts
show this band to be an early pioneer of both psychedelic/progressive
electronic and psychedelic space rock a la Ashra (whom they preceeded by
2 years!), Pink Floyd (whose album 'Wish You Were Here'-1975 they
preceded with their first 3 albums-all 1974 by 1 year!), Eloy (whose
masterpiece 'Ocean' came 3 years later-in 1977), and Tangerine Dream
(who released Pheadra the same year) More "song"-oriented than its
successor. Sounds in line with the German electronic, krautrock and
symphonic genres, though an abundance of other styles are invoked here
and there, with touches of French and English psych and electronic (they
were an Italian band). Of interest is their use of simultaneous
synth/keyboard and acoustic guitar. Very good.
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 05:58 |
^ Jim, sounds a pretty eclectic mix. I'm curious to hear that though I'm not usually a fan of electronic or krautrock.
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 14:03 |
Please check out the new Alma Sideris album which is a good RPI album.......with added goodies. It is a free album too. I think you will like this album more than I did.
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 14:24 |
OK, thanks torodd. Listening now... like you say in your review, very eclectic mix.
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