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Finnforest
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 07:29 |
Chris, that's actually a band I've never pulled the trigger on, and I love vocals that are described as harsh usually. On the list.
Nice reviews lately Chris, good work! |
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Todd
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 09:02 |
I love Nuova Idea, and I don't remember being distracted by the vocals. Then again, I like Jumbo's vocals too. Clowns is their best, followed by Mr E Jones.
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 13:30 |
Thanks for the replies, guys. I'm not too keen on the vocals on Rustichelli & Bordini's Opera Prima, but it doesn't stop me loving that album. Guess I'll dive in to Clowns then Yep, Jumbo are pretty cool too.
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 16:33 |
^ Agree, the vocals on Opera Prima drag it down a bit though musically it's excellent. Fella's vocals in Jumbo whilst I'm sure an aquired taste for many people just seem to work for me.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 18:23 |
I recommend this album highly to RPI fans...a Mexican band influenced by RPI. A cross between Pandora and boisterous Latin American prog. Tasty.
Gamadion Arbatel Eclectic Prog
Review by
Finnforest
RPI influenced progressive rock from Mexico
Sometimes when people are trying to convince me that Italian Prog is not a legitimate subgenre, one of the bits of nonsense they use is that RPI never influenced bands outside of Italy. First, I wouldn't necessarily agree with the premise that influencing others is a requirement for a rock sound grouping, but if it is, Arbatel is one example of a Mexican band clearly influenced by Italian progressive rock. Latin America seems to be a part of the world who have embraced RPI with great enthusiasm, and in Arbatel you can hear the influence pretty easily. Back in their early days they cut their teeth with covers of Orme and Balletto di Bronzo. Their debut "Gamadion" was initially released by the band and picked up later by Mylodon Records, currently it is distributed by Black Widow Records. "Gamadion" is a turbulent and passionate progressive rock, nothing dry about it. The best non-musical image I can think of to describe it would be that of a thunder cloud, though the music itself is not dark in a negative emotional way. It is a mix of unsettled and uplifting passage built from bold keyboard presentation and fairly crunchy, distorted electric guitars. The lead playing is beautiful, soaring and fluid, quite expressive. Composition features good dynamics and variables. "Xólotl" is a standout track which opens with church bells and a gothic pipe organ to a militaristic snare drum, the organ soon doubled to the lead guitar and later some lovely piano enters. The title tracks is very dramatic, it utilizes a Hitler speech as the set-up for a musical look at the horrors of war. Bullets and bombs sound effects fill bombastic, intense riffing and feedback sections, brilliantly placing the listener into the hell and confusion of violence, simply one of the best musical interpretations you'll hear of such a horrid subject. "Tu che sei" is another favorite because it so reminds me of Italian prog, featuring traditional prog-folk melody with dreamy vocals, violin, and piano. At the end is a bonus version of Xólotl with lovely female vocals. I realized while listening that parts of the melody resemble the verse melody of Neil Young's "Like a Hurricane" and certainly Arbatel are delivering that level of excitement with this music. This is a very good debut album showing amazing potential and featuring some real highpoints. While it falls just a hair short of the 4-star mark for me, I do recommend this album to any prog fan. It is a must-listen for fans of RPI who wish to hear the influences of Italian prog rock moving overseas and what it sounds like, in this case, in Mexico. The influence is there in sound and arrangements, but also I believe in mood, in spirit. A very enjoyable debut, I can't wait to hear more from this band in the future. 3 ˝ stars. |
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Todd
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 22:36 |
Sounds very intriguing, Jim. I'll have to look into that one!
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Todd
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 22:38 |
I have a question for you all: What is your favorite Italian progressive album that is not on the site?
I've thought about this for a bit, and I think I have to submit Riccardo Cocciante's "Mu." What are some of yours?
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 22:50 |
Interesting Todd. I can't think of anything off hand except that Santoni album, which I'm quite fond of. I guess I don't own many that would fit that description, the ones I do have which are not here are not among what I would call "faves." But I'll keep thinking
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Todd
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Posted: July 17 2010 at 23:35 |
That is a good album, Jim. Underappreciated for sure. Here are some other good ones:
Mediterranea - Ecce Rock Ciro Dammicco - MittenteCome le Foglie - Aliante
Equipe 84 - Sacrificio
Eugenio Finardi - Sugo
Logan Dwight
Lost Tales - A Volo Radente
Secret Cinema - Dreamin' of My Past
Toni Verde - Calypso
Perhaps some of these might make their way onto the site at some point, but regardless they remain nice listens for those interested in progressive rock (in a couple of those cases, put the progressive in quotes) from Italy.
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 08:43 |
Going to check out Arbatel Jim, sounds very interesting.
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 08:52 |
Todd, your little list there - how come those bands aren't here already? Is it because they're borderline cases? I don't have much Italian music that isn't on the site to be honest. The only thing that springs to mind is Gino Vannelli who has some prog influences at times. I haven't listened to him for a few years now to be honest - going to go and dig some out.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 08:54 |
I think you'd dig it Paul. Pretty solid disc with lots of energetic playing.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 08:59 |
Paul, I suspect some of them will be entering our eval universe in the future. I know Todd is considering introducing a few of them. Others are probably not quite suitable for us, or borderline, as you say. But we will get the ones that meet the Def added in the future.
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 09:00 |
Cool
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 18 2010 at 20:20 |
Vault Pick: will be on some 2010 year end lists, I have little doubt.
In Case of Loss.. Areknamés Eclectic Prog Review by
Cesar
Inca
More good news from Italy's progressive rock field: Areknamés is back on
the road and in
very good shape. 4 years after the excellent demonstration of epic and
somber retro-prog
delivered in "Love Hate Round Trip", Michele Epifani & co. manage to
offer yet another
enjoyable exhibition of art-rock with "In Case Of Loss?", the third
album that confirms
these guys as serious business. The VDGG and Hammill references remain a
solid
source of inspiration in the band's input, but in comparison to the
aforementioned
sophomore album, "In Case Of Loss?" exhibits more luminous textures and a
lighter
dynamics in places. In fact, the guitar parts are less intense in
general terms, although the
use of powerful riffs and creative harmonies remains a strong asset in
the band's
framework: in short, there is more Hackett and less Iommi in the guitar
inputs. All in all,
Epifani (call him the "Italian Matthew Parmenter" if you like) provides
less tense singing and
more colorful keyboard inputs in the overall repertoire. Well, now we
are going to the
repertoire itself, and so we find that the opener 'Beached' provides
almost 7 minutes of
agile space-rock moods set on an appealing rhythmic swing: picture
pre-"Absentia" PT and
the artsier side of Radiohead meeting halfway in the realms of the
softer side of Ozric
Tentacles and you will have a reasonable idea about what is cooking
here. This somewhat
up-tempo beginning prepares our spirit to face the nihilistic approach
incarnated in the next
two pieces, 'Alone' and 'Dateless Diary', which indeed keep a closer
relation with the angry
somberness of the "Love Hate" album. 'Alone' starts with a brief musical
box sequence,
then shifts toward a vandegraffian framework wisely elaborated with
uncommon signatures
and augmented with jazz-oriented schemes (very "Godbluff"-like);
'Dateless Diary' states
eerier ambiences that serves as a valid counterpoint to the caustic
moods predominant in
the previous track? and why does the fade-out have to arrive so soon?...
At this point, we
can easily notice the musical substance that makes this album such a
rich contribution to
the 2010's prog rock scene, but there's more to enjoy. 'Don't Move'
brings what is perhaps
the warmer atmosphere in the album: a progressive ballad that gives
Epifani enough room
to celebrate (one more time) the Hammill legacy (something like
"Over"-meets-"Silent
Corner"). Its ethereal mood is defining of the whole composition despite
the presence of
some intense passages in its main body's elaboration. Apparently, 'A New
Song' inherited
some of the previous track's contemplative aura for its first half, but
then the second half
shifts toward a robust expression of psychedelic developments, very
retro, a well
accomplished amalgam of early VDGG, Gnidrolog, Greenslade, and even some
classic
Deep Purple too! The resulting climax is forceful and brilliant. 'Where'
slows down thing a
bit (just a bit) by installing a middle term between track 1 and 3. So
far, this is how it goes
with the album's "shorter" tracks. Now, let's go for the suite entitled
'The Last Number'.
This piece shows the sort of disciplined progressive rock students the
Areknamés
musicians are: this suite bears the epic attitude and melodic ambition
that prog rock suites
are famous (and infamous) for. All in all, let us remember that this is
"In Case", not "Love
Hate", so this suite in question gives ample room to constrained
sonorities and sober
melodic developments in preference over the darker passages (which also
exist).
Introspection and melancholy are the dominant atmospheres in 'The Last
Number'. There
are also some sax solos that emphasize the occasional jazzy textures,
while the cello
arrangements display an extra dose of stylish beauty to some
symphonic-centered
passages. Right at the 12 minute mark, a motif installed on a 5/4 tempo
capitalizes the
controlled intensity for a while until it fluidly gives way to a softer
passage - here is an
example of the consistent brilliancy in this suite's arrangements. For
the last 4 minutes, a
lovely organ solo and a powerful section announce the majestic finale
that brings back
memories of 70-71 VDGG and "Trespass"-era Genesis. This is not the real
end: after a
minute of silence or so, Epifani plays a spinet sonata that mixes
Baroque and modern
dissonance (very much a Balletto thing, isn't it?). The listening
experience of this album is
just awesome: Areknamés reassures its status as one of the biggest items
in the current
European retro-prog area.
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Todd
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 01:37 |
Paul, here's my take on these bands and their potential PA future.
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andrea
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2064 |
Posted: July 19 2010 at 02:25 |
Todd
Special Collaborator RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
Posted: July 19 2010 at 08:25 |
Thanks Andrea! Those are both fabulous!
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andrea
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2064 |
Posted: July 19 2010 at 09:42 |
Gino D'Eliso's first album, il mare, is the most prog oriented in his discography. Anyway I also like his other albums, especially "Santi ed eroi"...
On his MySpace you can listen to another track from "Il mare", "Non č solo musica", but I hope you'll enjoy the other tracks as well...
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Nightfly
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Posted: July 19 2010 at 10:50 |
Thanks Andrea, really enyoyed Gino D'Elisio. I'll check out myspace too.
Claudio Lolli is less to my liking but interesting to hear nevertheless.
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