For my Libertarian friends

^ You're exactly right, JJ.Giving any entity too much power is a bad idea.

It's how I roll. 

JJLehto wrote: Well thank god they can't yet, been boycotting Wal Mart for a while Yes, I am sure my lack of business is killing them! Even in my new apartment when one was directly across the street I still drove a bit down the road to Giant. Also I've noticed price wise, generally, wal-mart was the same as Giant

Best reason to boycott Wal Mart: have you ever tried to find a prog CD at a Wal Mart? Then again, have you ever tried to find anything at a Mega Wal Mart?  They put one in in Chamblee where I work.  Drove the International Farmer's Market out of business.  Not that it needed much help.  Hands down the least favorite farmer's market in my area of town.  Always smelled funny.  I only buy the occasional small ticket item there out of convenience.  When I'm stocking up for work, I'll go out of my way to a Kroger,

Equality 7-2521 wrote: JJLehto wrote: Well thank god they can't yet, been boycotting Wal Mart for a while Yes, I am sure my lack of business is killing them! Even in my new apartment when one was directly across the street I still drove a bit down the road to Giant. Also I've noticed price wise, generally, wal-mart was the same as Giant Damn that evil Walmart for providing items at lower prices and higher convenience than their competitors.

Have you ever tried to find something in particular at a Mega Wal-Mart?  Convenience my ass.  Good exercise though  
My big problem with them is cheapness at any cost.


Edited by Slartibartfast - July 18 2010 at 10:35

I drop by on occasion.  Lots of immigrant folk shop there.  They don't look particularly strange to me.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: JJLehto wrote: Well thank god they can't yet, been boycotting Wal Mart for a while Yes, I am sure my lack of business is killing them! Even in my new apartment when one was directly across the street I still drove a bit down the road to Giant. Also I've noticed price wise, generally, wal-mart was the same as Giant Damn that evil Walmart for providing items at lower prices and higher convenience than their competitors.

Now if they paid their employees just a tiny fraction of their gargantuan earnings, I would solidly un-damn the Chinese products warehouse...

Tell me Equality, you know studies that have shown how CEOsmake about 300 times or so more than the base employee in corporations. ( theexact number I don't remember). Don't me it has to be this way to work because studies also show that difference was not so gigantic just a few decades go. This is one of those areas I would the government to regulate. Is it good for the economy? Explain me why this difference is good. In the end the base employee is the main consumer. But he can't consume anymore in your paradisiacal market since he doesn't have the money and all wealth is being accumulated elsewhere.

The T wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: JJLehto wrote: Well thank god they can't yet, been boycotting Wal Mart for a while Yes, I am sure my lack of business is killing them! Even in my new apartment when one was directly across the street I still drove a bit down the road to Giant. Also I've noticed price wise, generally, wal-mart was the same as Giant Damn that evil Walmart for providing items at lower prices and higher convenience than their competitors. Now if they paid their employees just a tiny fraction of their gargantuan earnings, I would solidly un-damn the Chinese products warehouse... Tell me Equality, you know studies that have shown how CEOsmake about 300 times or so more than the base employee in corporations. ( theexact number I don't remember). Don't me it has to be this way to work because studies also show that difference was not so gigantic just a few decades go. This is one of those areas I would the government to regulate. Is it good for the economy? Explain me why this difference is good. In the end the base employee is the main consumer. But he can't consume anymore in your paradisiacal market since he doesn't have the money and all wealth is being accumulated elsewhere.

Their employees all agree to work there for the wages they are earning. They're not being forced to do so. If their skills can demand a higher price in the labor force they're free to go elsewhere.

Why do people get so hung up on wealth discrepancy? Anyway, I don't know much about these numbers so I won't say much about it. I would guess that the nature of corporations have changed as they have become gargantuan due to globalization, thus with a stronger centralizing force, thus the CEOs tend to make more money now in the past. But like I said I don't know its not an issue I've studied.

You explain to me why this difference is bad? I'm not saying its good or bad. That's a moral judgment. It's certainly not bad as I see nobody infringing on the rights of others or engaging in vices. Your last sentence is a complete nonsequiter and not supported by anything you've said.  We can consume still. In fact, we consume too much which contributes to this mess we're in.

How exactly would you regulate this? Do you think your regulation would be good for the economy?

Of course its stupid.
Like my individual actions are gunna have any impact, especially on the company that more or less runs the world
Though you seem to find it stupid just because of my objections?

But regardless...its the best target. Wal mart personifies the best what I hate about globalization, capitalism yadda yadda yadda
And really, like Slarti said, place is always a mess/disorganzied, unwelcoming, and I dont see any major price differences generally.
All politics aside, I hate that place. Forget low prices! I'd rather support a smaller/local place OR go somewhere I enjoy more and maybe pay a slightly higher price.

Sometimes seems like no one else in this damn country feels the same. I mean, is $ really the root of everything? I know a lot of people that have various objections with wal mart, but always the "price" Pisses me off, all hail the all mighty dollar. Screw everything else.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Damn that evil Walmart for providing items at lower prices and higher convenience than their competitors.

I'd rather damn them for having really low prices while also having an incredibly uncomfortable atmosphere to be in. It's frustrating.

Thats all well and good.

And I am serious when I say I dont like the place, politics aside. Stoney just agreed as well.
Place sucks.

And that really is good Rob, and Im glad they've done all that...but who knows why really.
Reminds me of a few years ago when I would see BP commercials talking about how environmentally friendly they are. Now it turns out their record was god awful.
Like I said, we all have biases...until proven other wise, don't have a lick of trust in a company like wal mart.

While those philanthropic things are of course good, I doubt it was sincere.
And yeah they employ all those people and of course they agree to it, what am I stupid?

But I do wonder how many of those are because there are no other jobs because:
It got outsourced, replaced with robots, or got run out by wal mart itself.

Now now, its capitalism, its globalization it is what it is, for many it is the "best" for the country I know, but that doesn't mean I need to like it, and it doesn't mean I have to support it. It's not like I make signs and protests and all that, I don't like wal mart, I dont go there. You don't like Obama, you didn't vote for him, right? No amount of talk was going to sway you otherwise.



Edited by JJLehto - July 18 2010 at 14:13