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A Person
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:20 | |||||
There has to be an in between phase... I think the fact that my chemistry teacher once tore a phone book in half kept my class in check, besides the trolls. It also helped that he was a bit of a pyromaniac. Weird first post on a page. Edited by A Person - July 15 2010 at 21:20 |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:21 | |||||
I taught at a school that only handled young people who had been kicked out of public school.
It was the best job I ever had. How I do miss it. |
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DisgruntledPorcupine
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:24 | |||||
This makes me think... I've never been suspended in my life. I wonder why. |
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Man With Hat
Collaborator Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166178 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:26 | |||||
Theres a The Work song I'm thinking of right now.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:28 | |||||
I took a few bruises, but my students didn't mess with me. The only one who really tried didn't make it past my podium. Mr. Nelson got him first. Lucky him, I say. |
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DisgruntledPorcupine
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:33 | |||||
Oh jeez. |
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jammun
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:34 | |||||
Epi, I did not read through the entire thread, but I noted a number of your original '8 theses' .
My son was a complete slacker in high school, as in doing just enough to get by. I went to parent night. His Chemistry teacher was aghast. "Do you know what your son said to me?" (I'm thinking, please don't let the answer be "I want to tittie f**k you.") I sez, "No." She sez, "He asked me what does it take to get a C in this class."
That's my boy. No aspirations in high school. But he was no idiot. He now has a Master's degree in Education from a very well-respected program, and would be teaching except 'round these parts they are laying off teachers, not hiring them. His student teaching was impeccable, connecting with the kids. He'd come home (he was doing the student teaching here) and complain about the slackers. "They just don't care. I don't get it" I sez, "It's just payback, dude. Ya reapin' what you sowed."
I think he'll do well. He does connect with the unmotivated kids, because he's been there, done that.
As an aside, I think for one of his high school history classes he skirted the final exam by making a CD mix of many of my Zappa albums for one of his teachers. Good enough. Happy student, happy teacher, and in the long run no harm done!
Edited by jammun - July 15 2010 at 21:36 |
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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DisgruntledPorcupine
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:35 | |||||
Yeah, you could probably make me behave in that case. |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:39 | |||||
Hmph. Sounds like someone I used to know. *whistles* That's why I propose a shorter time in high school. Your son was a slacker in high school because he was probably too good for what they had to offer. Some of my students were slackers because they were amazing at things public school didn't prepare them for (like fixing cars, construction, or serving in the cost guard). |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:50 | |||||
The thing was man...most of the students in my class liked my class. Trust me- teachers can get bored just as much as students. We want to keep it interesting. Here are some things I did: 1. Jeopardy every Friday. We had our test, and after everyone was done, it was game show time with LIVE BUZZERS. Winners got full size candy bars. Fridays rocked. 2. Open book tests. Yep. Every one of them. No excuses. The book is there. You didn't read it because you weren't here that day? Get to reading now. I'll wait. 3. I dressed up as James f**king Joyce. No kidding. I wore the cap, eye-patch, beard, cane, and suit all day long and spoke in an Irish accent. My students had no idea what to think. Neither did my co-workers, because I acted the part in the breakroom too. 4. Study rock and rap lyrics. The kids loved this. Who says poetry was only written by dead white guys? Pink Floyd, Rush, Seven Nations, T-Pain, Tupac and so on. 5. Biggest thing- I wasn't out to get them, and made this clear. They just needed to put forth effort. They needed to learn they could succeed in something other than selling drugs or surviving in a gang (1/3 of my students were active members in gangs). I recall one student went to jail for months on a sexual assault charge. He came back to me asking for me to tell him about Jesus. He said he was tired of that life and wanted to be a preacher. That's when I say "f**k the separation of church and state," here's a kid who wants to move away from terribleness. I won't deny him that. And he didn't even know I was a Christian, because I never told my students that! I sure hope Johnny is doing all right. God I miss them. |
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A Person
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:51 | |||||
I used to get awful grades in high school, but at every conference my teachers would go on about how smart I was. And then I started going to the tech center for half the day for the programming program and I had a solid A for the entire time I was there. In fact I spent the last month I went there goofing off.
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:52 | |||||
What classes did you teach? What grades? What kind of institution? Do you still teach?
I wasn't aware you were a teacher.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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DisgruntledPorcupine
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:57 | |||||
Ahh Jeopardy games. Rare do we do those. I usually win or come close to winning, too. |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 21:59 | |||||
I taught English for two years in a charter school for those who had been kicked out of public school here in Central Florida. I taught High School boys (9-12 grade). Their choice was essentially to graduate from our program or go to jail. I do not teach anymore because in 2008, the school was up for contract renewal, and it didn't happen. This was due to major budget cuts across the state. Ironically, and unfortunately, other programs similar (and inferior) to ours are still open. I know because I applied and worked for two of them. They are absolutely horrendous. Zero discipline. |
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A Person
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 22:00 | |||||
I used to get annoyed with open book tests, I prefer to plow through the test and be done with it.
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 22:01 | |||||
Pat, you are in Philadelphia.
Perhaps you know of CEP (Community Education Partners). That is for whom I worked. |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 22:02 | |||||
The book was always an option. If you didn't want / need it, then go for it. |
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thellama73
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 22:04 | |||||
I don't want to get into a whole big thing here, but I teach music and I was homeschooled my entire life until college. It seems to have worked for me. I'd like to take this opportunity to clear up some misconceptions about homeschooling. We did not have a designated class time. My parents did not teach me. I was never forced to study any subject. If I expressed an interest in something, my parents would get me a book and say "let me know if you need help or have any questions." When SAT time rolled around, they said "You need to do the following things if you want to go to college. Your call." So I did and scored quite well. Straight A's in a top ranked school..
I sincerely believe that children are built to learn and that if you don't stifle them by cramming education down their throats before they're ready (pre-school? Really?) they will do just fine. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 22:04 | |||||
Cool stuff man. I enjoyed a brief stint teaching although I hated it.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: July 15 2010 at 22:05 | |||||
I was actually recruited by them. They're a good program from what I understand.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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