Stevie Wonder for Progressive Motown

Well, classy for you and classy for Zappa are probably two very different worlds.




Edited by Alitare - July 12 2010 at 13:27

Snow Dog wrote: Dean wrote: Three years ago (give or take a week or two): Snow Dog wrote: chopper wrote: Me too, mostly, but which song on CTTE isn't prog? You're right...I don't agree with him on many points!   Where was that from? It's kinda creepy how things stay the same.

At least we're consistent

One of Ian's (Dim's) most memorable moments 

Dean wrote: Snow Dog wrote: How the **** did you remember that to quote it? It's a curse - I can remember all kinds of useless stuff, but where I left my car keys? Not a hope.

harmonium.ro wrote: Even worse than "where are my car keys?": "where's my car?"

Snow Dog wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Even worse than "where are my car keys?": "where's my car?" Seriously? This happened to you?

It happened to a friend of mine. We wandered the back streets of Wimbledon for hours. Mind you, it was the day after Wimbledon beat Liverpool in the Cup Final, so the previous day was a bit of an alcoholic fug.

We appeared to have strayed off topic somewhat.

Alitare wrote: Well, classy for you and classy for Zappa are probably two very different worlds.

For sure....

kenethlevine wrote: virtually every "serious" artist active in the 70s incorporated some of the prog of the time into their sound.  This is logical since prog was big, even cool for large stretches of that decade, and even when it wasn't big or cool, people would borrow from it because it was one of the major forces of its day.  We have had this discussion about MANY artists, including probably my favourite pop group, ABBA, because they have a handful of somewhat progressive songs and were clearly influenced by the symphonic aspects.  But in the end, Abba was predominantly a pop group, and Stevie Wonder predominantly an R&B artist.  In both cases decidedly so.

Back to the topic, and very well said sir.

A band I'd really like to see here but probably never will is Magazine. Real Life is an essential album, very influential on a lot of the alternative/experimental/proggy rock bands of the 90s. Yes I know it came out in the 70s, but it doesn't seem to have made its impact till the 90s.

kenethlevine wrote: virtually every "serious" artist active in the 70s incorporated some of the prog of the time into their sound.  This is logical since prog was big, even cool for large stretches of that decade, and even when it wasn't big or cool, people would borrow from it because it was one of the major forces of its day.  We have had this discussion about MANY artists, including probably my favourite pop group, ABBA, because they have a handful of somewhat progressive songs and were clearly influenced by the symphonic aspects.  But in the end, Abba was predominantly a pop group, and Stevie Wonder predominantly an R&B artist.  In both cases decidedly so.

If you look at The Alan Parsons Project, they were predominately pop, even if Tales is a fully crossover prog album. Supertramp were almost identical in the pop aspect of their music, and the same goes for radiohead and their alternative rock background. NIN had a predominately industrial setup, and a lot of folks think Coheed is just a big ol' slab of alternative hard rock. Now, I'm sure these folks are here because they took their roots and expanded on them, progressively, and I happen to feel that this is what Stevie Wonder did in the early 70's with his roots. Maybe he's not prog rock, but he's not any less prog rock than NIN, Coheed, Supertramp, APP, or Radiohead. (Oldfield's got him beat, but hell....)