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Topic: Harry Potter Posted: June 30 2010 at 12:39
Firstly, let me put this out there: If you think these stories are just for children, you are either an idiot, or completely oblivious to what the series is really about.
Okay, now on to the discussion.
DT-PT's LotR poll got me interested in doing a Fantasy poll of my own.
I grew up with Harry Potter the same way many other before me grew up with Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit or Narnia. It captured my imagination and helped plant my interest firmly in the fantasy fiction genre of literature. If it hadn't been for these stories, I may not be as avid a fantasy reader today.
So the series obviously has sentimental value to me, but I honestly think I would have still grown to like it had I been introduced to it later on. It's just got that special quality that makes it a true classic. Now that the film adaptations are about to come to a close, it got me to thinking, how many of my fellows here are fans? How many think it's stupid kids stuff? How many are simply indifferent or have never read it? Tell me your thoughts. Just . . . for those who don't enjoy it, try not to be a****les about it, alright? We all like different stuff for our own reasons.
Here is the trailer for the final Harry Potter film that was released just two days ago:
If there ARE any Potter fans here, it would be fun to see how many of you were introduced to the story through the film adaptations rather than the books. I know the movies get a lot of hell from some of the die-hard fans, but I enjoy them immensely.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 12:50
I love both, myself. Out of all the movies/books that became a trend with teens, these would have to be the best. But nowadays, I have to suffer with all the teens talking about Twilight.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 12:54
DT-PT wrote:
I love both, myself. Out of all the movies/books that became a trend with teens, these would have to be the best. But nowadays, I have to suffer with all the teens talking about Twilight.
*shudders* I know. Well, that's alright. The teens that were reading Potter back in the day are growing into adults who enjoy these films, and will most likely share the books and movies with their children. Twilight appeals to fat, lonely fifteen-year-old girls who will probably have restraining orders filed against them by famous men by the time they are in their thirties. Which of the two influences do you think will last?
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 12:57
JLocke wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
I love both, myself. Out of all the movies/books that became a trend with teens, these would have to be the best. But nowadays, I have to suffer with all the teens talking about Twilight.
*shudders* I know. Well, that's alright. The teens that were reading Potter back in the day are growing into adults who enjoy these films, and will most likely share the books and movies with their children. Twilight appeals to fat, lonely fifteen-year-old girls who will probably have restraining orders filed against them by famous men by the time they are in their thirties. Which of the two influences do you think will last?
I know that all too well. I'm 15 (turning 16 in September) now so I go to school with these people and I know Twilight fans are completely insane. They just plain scare me. There are still remaining Potter fans though, and I've noticed these people are a much more intelligent type. I know it's rude to stereotype, but it's true.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 12:59
Yeah, my younger brother was obsessed with them and read the entire series in like 2-3 weeks. I did like how the story got darker and more complex in The Goblet of Fire (which was by far my favorite,) so maybe I should check out the last three. I stopped reading because school got in the way, but now that it's summer it could be the perfect time.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:01
JLocke wrote:
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I've only read the first four books, and I liked them well enough. Not the best fantasy ever, but still good.
I recommend you read the last three. The plot becomes so involved and so much more is revealed, the quality of the story skyrockets.
Agreed, it's hard to read the first four now.
I have never been a big fan of the movies, but I will probably see the new movies out of curiosity, I need to find out how far they deviate from the books.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:01
DT-PT wrote:
JLocke wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
I love both, myself. Out of all the movies/books that became a trend with teens, these would have to be the best. But nowadays, I have to suffer with all the teens talking about Twilight.
*shudders* I know. Well, that's alright. The teens that were reading Potter back in the day are growing into adults who enjoy these films, and will most likely share the books and movies with their children. Twilight appeals to fat, lonely fifteen-year-old girls who will probably have restraining orders filed against them by famous men by the time they are in their thirties. Which of the two influences do you think will last?
I know that all too well. I'm 15 (turning 16 in September) now so I go to school with these people and I know Twilight fans are completely insane. They just plain scare me. There are still remaining Potter fans though, and I've noticed these people are a much more intelligent type. I know it's rude to stereotype, but it's true.
Just out of curiosity, are you a Stephen King fan? Because he said something about Stephanie Meyer (the 'author' behind Twilight) that really pissed off her disciples, but made perfect sense to everybody else. If you are even a little familiar with real literature, you've at least heard of Stephen King, and know how successful he has been. However, the Twi-zis are so enveloped in this dreamland that they have no idea who he is. Some of the reactions over his comment are truly hysterical.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:05
JLocke wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
JLocke wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
I love both, myself. Out of all the movies/books that became a trend with teens, these would have to be the best. But nowadays, I have to suffer with all the teens talking about Twilight.
*shudders* I know. Well, that's alright. The teens that were reading Potter back in the day are growing into adults who enjoy these films, and will most likely share the books and movies with their children. Twilight appeals to fat, lonely fifteen-year-old girls who will probably have restraining orders filed against them by famous men by the time they are in their thirties. Which of the two influences do you think will last?
I know that all too well. I'm 15 (turning 16 in September) now so I go to school with these people and I know Twilight fans are completely insane. They just plain scare me. There are still remaining Potter fans though, and I've noticed these people are a much more intelligent type. I know it's rude to stereotype, but it's true.
Just out of curiosity, are you a Stephen King fan? Because he said something about Stephanie Meyer (the 'author' behind Twilight) that really pissed off her disciples, but made perfect sense to everybody else. If you are even a little familiar with real literature, you've at least heard of Stephen King, and know how successful he has been. However, the Twi-zis are so enveloped in this dreamland that they have no idea who he is. Some of the reactions over his comment are truly hysterical.
Yes, I am a huge King fan. My bookshelf in the basement is full of Stephen King books. I have not seen this comment that he made, I'll have to check it out.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:08
Ugh, those Twilight books? I've never read 'em, and probably never will because of the effects I've seen. Luckily, the girl I like hates them, which is very rare because every teenage girl I know is obsessed with them. I think Stephanie Meyer is really just a conspirator that's trying to ruin boys' lives by luring girls with stories of fictional vampires and werewolves instead of real people.
I just read what Stephen King said about Meyer. Another author I need to check out.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:09
DT-PT wrote:
Yes, I am a huge King fan. My bookshelf in the basement is full of Stephen King books. I have not seen this comment that he made, I'll have to check it out.
I love him, too. You've read The Dark Tower series, I'm assuming?
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:10
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Ugh, those Twilight books? I've never read 'em, and probably never will because of the effects I've seen. Luckily, the girl I like hates them, which is very rare because every teenage girl I know is obsessed with them. I think Stephanie Meyer is really just a conspirator that's trying to ruin boys' lives by luring girls with stories of fictional vampires and werewolves instead of real people.
Luckily I have never had to deal with that. I got out just in time, although I did know a huge fan of vampire fiction, she was actually one of the most tolerable people I've met.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:11
UndercoverBoy wrote:
Ugh, those Twilight books? I've never read 'em, and probably never will because of the effects I've seen. Luckily, the girl I like hates them, which is very rare because every teenage girl I know is obsessed with them. I think Stephanie Meyer is really just a conspirator that's trying to ruin boys' lives by luring girls with stories of fictional vampires and werewolves instead of real people.
I just read what Stephen King said about Meyer. Another author I need to check out.
Some people theorize that she herself is mentally ill. She seems to truly believe that 'true love' somehow means the guy has to turn into a controlling stalker.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:12
I read the first few pages of the first book and watched the first ten or twenty minutes of one of the movies. So pretty much the last choice, I think.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:12
A Person wrote:
UndercoverBoy wrote:
Ugh, those Twilight books? I've never read 'em, and probably never will because of the effects I've seen. Luckily, the girl I like hates them, which is very rare because every teenage girl I know is obsessed with them. I think Stephanie Meyer is really just a conspirator that's trying to ruin boys' lives by luring girls with stories of fictional vampires and werewolves instead of real people.
Luckily I have never had to deal with that. I got out just in time, although I did know a huge fan of vampire fiction, she was actually one of the most tolerable people I've met.
Not all vampire fiction is bad. I love True Blood, and that's based on a book series. Anne Rice is also quite popular, and most likely for good reason. Not all authors of that type of stuff are hacks.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:15
JLocke wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
Yes, I am a huge King fan. My bookshelf in the basement is full of Stephen King books. I have not seen this comment that he made, I'll have to check it out.
I love him, too. You've read The Dark Tower series, I'm assuming?
I have. Probably my favourite book series of all time.
Anyways I read up on the quote. The reaction from Twilight fans was hilarious. One of them actually says ""Steven King doesn't know what a real book was if it hit him in the face. He's just a bloody guy who is jealous of Edward's good looks." That last sentence sums up the intelligence of most Twilight fans quite nicely.
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Posted: June 30 2010 at 13:15
JLocke wrote:
A Person wrote:
UndercoverBoy wrote:
Ugh, those Twilight books? I've never read 'em, and probably never will because of the effects I've seen. Luckily, the girl I like hates them, which is very rare because every teenage girl I know is obsessed with them. I think Stephanie Meyer is really just a conspirator that's trying to ruin boys' lives by luring girls with stories of fictional vampires and werewolves instead of real people.
Luckily I have never had to deal with that. I got out just in time, although I did know a huge fan of vampire fiction, she was actually one of the most tolerable people I've met.
Not all vampire fiction is bad. I love True Blood, and that's based on a book series. Anne Rice is also quite popular, and most likely for good reason. Not all authors of that type of stuff are hacks.
From the covers of the books she read I am supposing she read both kinds.
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DT-PT wrote:
I know that all too well. I'm 15 (turning 16 in September) now so I go to school with these people and I know Twilight fans are completely insane. They just plain scare me. There are still remaining Potter fans though, and I've noticed these people are a much more intelligent type. I know it's rude to stereotype, but it's true. 
My bookshelf in the basement is full of Stephen King books. I have not seen this comment that he made, I'll have to check it out. 
I got out just in time, although I did know a huge fan of vampire fiction, she was actually one of the most tolerable people I've met.