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Posted: June 28 2010 at 09:46
chopper wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
'Back in NYC' (followed by more Genesis like 'Abacab' or 'Robbery,Assault and Battery')
I agree with the last two, but Back in NYC? Pop? Hm...wouldn't have thought that. Perhaps Carpet Crawlers or I Know What I Like. I actually was going to suggest Follow You, Follow Me. But overall, I think it's obvious that Genesis is the master of this prog-pop stuff.
Yes, Back in NYC is too long and in too weird a time signature to be prog-pop. Now Carpet Crawlers is a different matter.
Agreed with two of the three, as with first:
None of that Genesis stuff is pop/prog. Maybe Prog/rock with a pop sheen, but NOT really for several you mentioned, particularly back in NYC (genesis' best song)
If you define as Pop that stuff you really are restricting Prog to stupid experimentation. Prog isn't simply about long, stupid experimentation. That's avant-garde, right?
The premise of prog is that it is maximum pop like the Who described themselves in 1965 ("Maximum R&B"), Prog is a really ambitious descendant and close relative of pop. It is only when the music feeds obviously and purposely back into contemporary pop conventions that it can be described prog-pop. Owner could have been released by any AOR band (even though it would have been the best thing they did), as could Learning to Fly (theoretically). Something like Abacab (the song) was completely in its own stream, though some of the other tracks on that album could be classified as Prog-pop or even pop. etc.
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Posted: June 28 2010 at 14:48
chopper wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
'Back in NYC' (followed by more Genesis like 'Abacab' or 'Robbery,Assault and Battery')
I agree with the last two, but Back in NYC? Pop? Hm...wouldn't have thought that. Perhaps Carpet Crawlers or I Know What I Like. I actually was going to suggest Follow You, Follow Me. But overall, I think it's obvious that Genesis is the master of this prog-pop stuff.
Yes, Back in NYC is too long and in too weird a time signature to be prog-pop. Now Carpet Crawlers is a different matter.
But Carpet Crawlers is still is by no means a pop song, it has a simple time signature but doesn't sound poppy. Maybe Counting Out Time
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Posted: June 28 2010 at 18:26
desistindo wrote:
I would say "Owner of a lonely heart" by Yes. And you?
I wanna start a new "prog" genre ... prog-hit! But you already named it "prog-pop song". Sadly, that is exactly what the "progressive music" is really all about.
My answer is NONE.
I don't listen to "songs". I listen to "music".
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Posted: June 28 2010 at 19:25
moshkito wrote:
I wanna start a new "prog" genre ... prog-hit! But you already named it "prog-pop song". Sadly, that is exactly what the "progressive music" is really all about.
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