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    Posted: June 26 2010 at 22:24
Anybody fans of this group? I've heard the "Pilgrimage" and "Argus" albums, which I think are both great... with the standout songs being the instrumental "Vas Dis" and the awesome "Warrior". What other albums by them are worth hearing? They're definitely a very progy group, but probably a little too simple sometimes to be labeled a progressive rock band. Anyway, they're awesome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2010 at 23:28
I think you'll find plenty of Wishbone Ash fans around here.  I particularly like Argus, but have to admit to have lost a bit of interest after their fourth album.  They're on the site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2010 at 23:37

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage. Wishbone Four is a real sleeper for me. Live Dates is a worthwhile purchase. Never heard Vol.II or Vol.III. There's the Rub and New England are a return to the early style. More modern late 70's sounding but nevertheless a return to strong songwriting with beautiful guitar harmony leads. I hardly enjoyed anything past New England while discovering 2 to 3 decent tracks from their later releases.  They toured the southern United States with Camel back in the day. Camel released "On the Road" live 72' which is from this tour and Wishbone Ash released some of their performances of the tour as bonus tracks "Live In Memphis" I would like to obtain a recording of both bands during this short time period when they toured together. Live in Memphis was originally an EP with maybe only 3 songs

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2010 at 23:45
One the best Live Bands i have ever seen there set at Reading festival in 1975 was bloody awesome

Live dates is a stunning live album  some which i was lucky enough to be at, which was recorded at the Reading University .
I think the first 4 albums are all top stuff, i happen to rather like Wishbone Four. New England to is well worth a listen. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2010 at 09:18
Argus is my favorite album of all-time! I first found them when I went on a trip to London in November 2007 with my dad to see the Foo Fighters, way before I heard (of) prog, and apparently, except for the Foos, there was a Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash gig in London around that time. So my dad loaded his iPod with Argus, for the flight, so I could know the music played at the gig LOL. So when it came to the Throw Down the Sword guitar solo, I shed a few tears, and it was then, that Argus was crowned as my favorite album ever.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 08:56
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 09:12
1- Argus
2- Wishbone ash
3- Live Dates
4- Pilgrimage
5- There's The Rub.
 
 
I'm no fan of the rest of their albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 15:41
Wishbone Four, New England and Front Page News also deserve a good puntApprove
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 18:09
wishbone ash is great, Argus and there's the rub are my favorites.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2010 at 08:34
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
I think what drove me nuts was sitting in front of the turntable learning Andy Powell leads. I was dissapointed in the production of the debut and enjoyed his guitar work on the live version of Phoenix a bit more. You are correct about the debut filling the gaps between British Blues Boom and flavoured rock of the early 70's. I didn't take that aspect into account. Regarding the debut, for me personally, I like the overall sound of their guitars on Argus or the sound of Andy Powell's guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" a bit more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 11:11
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
I think what drove me nuts was sitting in front of the turntable learning Andy Powell leads. I was dissapointed in the production of the debut and enjoyed his guitar work on the live version of Phoenix a bit more. You are correct about the debut filling the gaps between British Blues Boom and flavoured rock of the early 70's. I didn't take that aspect into account. Regarding the debut, for me personally, I like the overall sound of their guitars on Argus or the sound of Andy Powell's guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" a bit more.
 
Have they remastered the first album yet? It certainly seemed to have low priority compared with the subsequent 6 or 7 alblums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 12:25
I'll never forget the first time. The stranger leans over the counter and points at my cd with the helmet guy with sword. My girlfriend, standing bubbly had recommended it, the guylooks at me and says "great album, dude" So I get home and "Blowin Free" is perking away and the first lick after "Iknow..because I seen her" right there my bubbly blonde short ass lady busts into an air-guitar. Open and expressive, that set the tone for this classic album see" Leaf and Stream" "Throw Down The Sword" and my fav, "The King Will Come"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 15:23
I love Argus and There's The Rub. Number The Brave was annoying the hell out of me at first, but later I realised it's quite a good album once you get past the 80's sounds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 16:53
Argus is one of the best albums ever, besides Animals and Hemispheres it was one of the albums that got me into prog rock Thumbs Up (maybe I should do a review on that album Wink)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2010 at 03:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2010 at 09:01
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
I think what drove me nuts was sitting in front of the turntable learning Andy Powell leads. I was dissapointed in the production of the debut and enjoyed his guitar work on the live version of Phoenix a bit more. You are correct about the debut filling the gaps between British Blues Boom and flavoured rock of the early 70's. I didn't take that aspect into account. Regarding the debut, for me personally, I like the overall sound of their guitars on Argus or the sound of Andy Powell's guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" a bit more.
 
Have they remastered the first album yet? It certainly seemed to have low priority compared with the subsequent 6 or 7 alblums?
I'm not sure. The sound of the drums on there are like cardboard boxes and it's a shame. The album is just outstanding! The remasterd or probably re-mixed version of Argus has some flaws too. "The King Will Come" sounds incredible...don't get me wrong. During the sections of the song where you normally hear quiet dynamic melodic guitar and vocal harmonies and perhaps on the original cd release are not dominate enough to the listener, are turned up in volume for the new mix. This is a situation where it feels like a sound tech is in the room with me and I'm watching him move the levels on the mixing board. As opposed to having the entrie mix blend well with the rest of the recording. It comes across like...."Okay, we are turning it up now". This is common to happen when the original analog recordings are re-mixed. On The Beatles Yellow Submarine Songtrack, it doesn't sound like anything is increasing or decreasing in volume. Yet it is re-mixed. In that case it's more about being creative with digital equipment and not just knowing the rules of using it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 08:01
Having seen them several times on stage in paris in the seventies, i can tell you they were a great live band and some of their tracks realy deserve to be considered as prog...favourite ones argus, first, there's a rub, new england, but in fact i love most of their stuff except maybe locked in ( only one good track)Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 08:27
I to saw the Ash a good few times in the 70s and have to say there where one the best Live acts around. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 19:47
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

I love Argus and There's The Rub. Number The Brave was annoying the hell out of me at first, but later I realised it's quite a good album once you get past the 80's sounds.


I love Number the brave.Great punchy album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 22:17
I saw them during the "Locked In" tour and they really played some beautiful music.  Along with rockin" out,,,I mean. The sound was perfect and the band was tight from the road. In 1999 I visited Disney World. I hunted down Tower Records in another town. I dropped some loot there, proceeded to walk the strip and presto! On the corner was a dive. A rat hole. A hole in the wall. With huge letters it was posted: Wishbone Ash. The building was the size of a small local corner bar in your average American town. So I sat there on a bench staring at that name for a very long time. I thought for the love of Christ, this is how Andy Powell lives his life? I've seen this happen to artists for many years yet I was somehow shocked this time. It's pretty pathetic to react the way that I did. It's probably due to the fond memories I have of them.  

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