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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:19
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Man, that beige artist sure gets around
 
 
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Let's keep in mind that these are all opinion based - and that while opinions are valid they will likely not be acted upon unless the PROPER team decides to do so.

AKA - don't expect to see Cream or Coheed & Cambria in the Heavy Prog subgenre any time soon.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 15:26
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Man, that beige artist sure gets around



Let's keep in mind that these are all opinion based - and that while opinions are valid they will likely not be acted upon unless the PROPER team decides to do so.

AKA - don't expect to see Cream or Coheed & Cambria in the Heavy Prog subgenre any time soon.


I think that "proper team" needs to give the last two Coheed albums (as well as some tracks off their first two) another listen.  Which, maybe they've done, I don't know, I can have a pretty loose definition of prog.... but if Metallica and Queen can be prog-related.... Coheed should be considered truly progressive, not just related IMO. 

And Cream should be proto-prog.  (which I believe they are, right?) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 15:28
Cream has been suggested and denied, they're strait up blues, despite influencing many artists that would later come.


I would say that Coheed's needs to come up with one very truly progressive record to get them out of Related. It was a big enough arguement just to get them onto the archives in the first place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 20:40
Really, Cream straight up blues?  So that would account for the cello parts on As You Said, the cello being a, let's face it, standard instrument in the blues genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 20:49
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:


I would say that Coheed's needs to come up with one very truly progressive record to get them out of Related. It was a big enough arguement just to get them onto the archives in the first place.


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as for Cream, I would say they were one of the most important bands ever - absolutely seminal - and certainly started something, but the vast bulk of their material wasn't any more 'progressive' than most of the other great pioneers of that era, as the Stones, Hendrix, or the Dead.  Could all those artists qualify as progressive?  Sure, but we have to decide whether the artists of the creative explosion of the 1960s are by definition progressive rock.  There is a good argument to be made for that, but iis it really what we want?




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 20:55
neat little band the Bitters just added to Heavy P
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4222

and old-timers White Witch
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4223



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2010 at 13:33
Though it was helpful for learning some of the old school guys (who were awesome btw), i have to give it a C minus for failing to mention king crimson in the 70's section(1969-).  As well as calling the 80's vacant of progressive rock livelihood, while f**king dream theater began (1985).  Also the 00's were downplayed as "not nearly as fruitful for the heavy prog genre".  The scene pretty much exploded in 00's , theres thousands of little brand new heavy prog nuggets popping up all over the place with new recording software capabilities (GPro, mac).

PS coheed&ca is prog. ie 21:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2010 at 16:25
THANK YOU FOR A VERY INTERESTING READ .... oops caps lock .

Haven t read through all  the  threads yet , but has any one mentioned  Leaf Hound Yet ?
only made one album but is a real corker .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2010 at 17:16
almost forgot about this great blog of Mike's, here's some noteworthy additions over the past year or so- -

ExCubus   
Quebecois heavy organ rock, killer stuff
Nevärlläjf   
Outstanding Swedish heavy proggers  
Headspace   
Good UK band
Valhalla     Rare and very decent early U.S. heavyprog
Walrus     Fun heavy blues/jazz from Britain circa 1970
Sky Architect   
Quality young heavy symph group from the Netherlands







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2010 at 17:22
No matter what, I still can't consider Porcupine Tree a fully 'heavy prog' band...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2010 at 20:10
Originally posted by lagorno lagorno wrote:

Though it was helpful for learning some of the old school guys (who were awesome btw), i have to give it a C minus for failing to mention king crimson in the 70's section(1969-).  As well as calling the 80's vacant of progressive rock livelihood, while f**king dream theater began (1985).  Also the 00's were downplayed as "not nearly as fruitful for the heavy prog genre".  The scene pretty much exploded in 00's , theres thousands of little brand new heavy prog nuggets popping up all over the place with new recording software capabilities (GPro, mac).

PS coheed&ca is prog. ie 21:13


I fully disagree with King Crimson being "heavy prog" - if you actually read through my blog you would have seen my definition of heavy prog as "a mix of contemporary rock music and traditional prog" which King Crimson never was. They have always been exactly as they're categorized on the website - "Eclectic". For them to be "heavy" in the period you describe then In The Wake of Poseidon would have had to fall closer to Cream than anything else. Which it does not.

As for the '00 comment... are any of those bands actually worth my time to listen to?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2010 at 22:36
Am I the only one who thinks Coheed and Cambria isn't even prog-related? Stern Smile

Anyways, very nice. An interesting read. Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2010 at 02:13
Originally posted by DT-PT DT-PT wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks Coheed and Cambria isn't even prog-related? Stern Smile



Do you even listen to them? Explain thee-self Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2010 at 22:49
Somewhat. I've gone through a bit and the proggiest song I've heard is "Welcome Home."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2010 at 13:45
how much is somewhat? Are we talking one album or the whole discography?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2010 at 21:05

I've heard at least 3 songs from every album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2010 at 06:24
since when has a prog band been about single songs? It's about the album mang. Besides, it's like I said - they're a good combination of modern rock and classic prog which doesn't mean that I'm right or that you have to agree with me, simply my own opinion - even though I think your argument is invalid because you have not heard enough of the band's music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2010 at 06:58
Great job. I  have wondered what happened to Captain Beyond. At one time I had what I think was their  second album. I saw them here in Baton Rouge when I was in high school in 71 or 72. Nice trip down memory lane.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2010 at 09:43
Great blog - needs a part 2....i would like to see Masters Apprentices on the blog too - great heavy prog band from Australia!
Also some of the pix have disappeared and could be updated. I know how hard that is with my own blogs but worth updating. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2010 at 21:06
T2 - It'll All Work Out in Boomland(1970)
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