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Bits and pieces of Space Opera ruled. Give it a listen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 13:21
Classic prog band: Kansas
 
Modern:  Can't choose one
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 16:27
PAT METHENY!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 16:38
Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

Well, since i dont like Dream Theater im not sure, but i would say Yezda Urfa, maybe. Some people worship Kansas too, but for me its not very good...
 
I get it ... so because you don't like it, it can't be rated!
 
Too bad. There are a lot of metal bands that are just sucking money off their fans, and at least one could have an admiration for the musicianship in DT.
 
It's hard to say, mostly because the American music scene is so bad and so commercially oriented, that making a call on which is "better" is almost ... SAD ... as in BAD ... but it is really hard to think of any band or group or whomever, that will ever surpass Frank Zappa, simply one of the best and most important composers in the 20th century along with Stravinsky.
 
That simple. The rest, for the most part is just rock music and not much else!
 
But the bad part is that bands like The Doors, should be considered, and that the folks that did alot of jazz stuff should also be considered. For all intents and puposes, one should really consider Miles Davis the most progressive of them all, but a lot of the "progressive" definition of things, do not like "jams" any more than they like "improvisations" and these were absolutely massive in the development of "progressive music". The difference was that in jazz you jammed around an instrument or note or sequence of notes ... whereas in the case of Jim Morrison, you had to jam and define something on the account of WORDS ... which is just as valid a process for creating music, but one that is really difficult unless you have a bunch of lunatics together that can talk to each other!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 16:44
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

In no order: Tortoise, The Mars Volta, Kayo Dot, Frank Zappa, John Zorn, Explosions In The Sky, Don Caballero, Battles, Yezda Urfa, Birds and Buildings, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Cynic, Blotted Science, Miles Davis, Weather Report, Chick Corea, Return To Forever, Isis, The Decemberists, Russian Circles, Subterranean Masquerade, Steve Tibbetts, etc etc. Amazing scene! Clap


I guess it is. Some favorites: Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band, Secret Chiefs 3, Non Credo and totally obscure symphonic/brass/jazz-prog (released in 71) McLuhan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 16:52
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

Well, since i dont like Dream Theater im not sure, but i would say Yezda Urfa, maybe. Some people worship Kansas too, but for me its not very good...
 
I get it ... so because you don't like it, it can't be rated!
 
Too bad. There are a lot of metal bands that are just sucking money off their fans, and at least one could have an admiration for the musicianship in DT.
 
It's hard to say, mostly because the American music scene is so bad and so commercially oriented, that making a call on which is "better" is almost ... SAD ... as in BAD ... but it is really hard to think of any band or group or whomever, that will ever surpass Frank Zappa, simply one of the best and most important composers in the 20th century along with Stravinsky.
 
That simple. The rest, for the most part is just rock music and not much else!

Yes. DT are clearly the most legendary, best, and significant US prog band. It's a shame so many here 'don't like them' and won't recognise this. 
Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 21:05
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Shadowfax, Spyro Gyra, Fareed Haque Group, and Kick the Cat all deserve mention in the jazz-rock fusion space. 

Kick the Cat gives classic Brand X a good run for their money!! 

Chicago has its own little progressive music scene & has produced some fine musicians over the years, some of whom I haven't heard from in ages (Apprentice comes to mind).  Apprentice nearly blew Brand X off the stage back in the early 1980's from what I've heard.  

Sorry for you Europeans, you don't know what you are missing over here!   Chicago has it all, right now we are in the middle of the Chicago Blues Fest.  Stop on by, but please note, we don't take Euros.


How could i forget Shadowfax! Shadowfaz is awesome, there is the best! I dont know why, but i think i dont count Shadowfax cause in some way i though they are germany, lol! maybe because of the eletronic sound...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 21:14
Originally posted by Kashmir75 Kashmir75 wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

Well, since i dont like Dream Theater im not sure, but i would say Yezda Urfa, maybe. Some people worship Kansas too, but for me its not very good...
 
I get it ... so because you don't like it, it can't be rated!
 
Too bad. There are a lot of metal bands that are just sucking money off their fans, and at least one could have an admiration for the musicianship in DT.
 
It's hard to say, mostly because the American music scene is so bad and so commercially oriented, that making a call on which is "better" is almost ... SAD ... as in BAD ... but it is really hard to think of any band or group or whomever, that will ever surpass Frank Zappa, simply one of the best and most important composers in the 20th century along with Stravinsky.
 
That simple. The rest, for the most part is just rock music and not much else!

Yes. DT are clearly the most legendary, best, and significant US prog band. It's a shame so many here 'don't like them' and won't recognise this. 


U not undertand me. I agree with you that DT may be the most representative USA prog band of all time, but for me they doesnt has the best sound. But i ssay that cause i dont like metal prog, maybe if i liked i would say DT for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 21:18
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PAT METHENY!!!


PM is prog??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 21:20
Hey, harmonium, i liked this McLuhan brass sound, do you suggest any other prog brass band?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 21:21
It's still Espers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 22:43
No one has mentioned Death, which are one of my all time favorites.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 23:10
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Uncle Frank, of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 03:33
Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

Hey, harmonium, i liked this McLuhan brass sound, do you suggest any other prog brass band?


What are you referring to? Question I think you may be confusing me with someone else. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 04:09
Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

Hey, harmonium, i liked this McLuhan brass sound, do you suggest any other prog brass band?


I quoted Harmonium, and linked to McLuhan. Get their only album Anomaly first, then check out Probe 10 There is a Universe and C.A Quintet Trip Thru Hell. (both american, brassdriven, psychedelic protoprog).

There's plenty of it if you like jazz fusion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 10:14
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

He´s Mexican, from Jalisco. 
 
Carlos Santana was born in Tijuana.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2010 at 15:53
Most people seem to think either Kansas or Happy the Man. I would say Spock's Beard is a contender as well. I'm not familiar with Yezda Urfa though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 15:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 15:40
You'll discover my taste in prog :

Echolyn
Izz
Glass Hammer
Pentwater
Little Atlas
Spock's Beard
Days for Tomorrow
and for the originality and productivity : Frank Zappa




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 15:46
Originally posted by esky esky wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

He´s Mexican, from Jalisco. 
 
Carlos Santana was born in Tijuana.


Wrong. He was born in Jalisco and moved to Tijuana as a kid.
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