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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2010 at 21:00
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Dream Theater
Shadow Gallery
or Rush - do they count?


lol canadians dont count! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2010 at 21:07
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

or Rush - do they count?
....LOL... I don't think so.... I wish they did; they would definitely be the 'winner' of this thread.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2010 at 22:01
Originally posted by Tarquin Underspoon Tarquin Underspoon wrote:

You know, I didn't really think about how few enduring prog acts we have here in the states.
 
It's a bit embarrassing, frankly Embarrassed

What about us up here in Canada? Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2010 at 22:23
Originally posted by DT-PT DT-PT wrote:

Originally posted by Tarquin Underspoon Tarquin Underspoon wrote:

You know, I didn't really think about how few enduring prog acts we have here in the states.
 
It's a bit embarrassing, frankly Embarrassed

What about us up here in Canada? Unhappy

Well, as soon as we get around to taking over the rest of the hemisphere... Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2010 at 22:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2010 at 23:05
Oh man, there's so many.

Zappa
Captain Beefheart
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Mars Volta
Mr. Bungle
Magellan
Primus
Steve Morse
Dixie Dregs
Les Claypool
Kevin Gilbert
Paul Gilbert
Frogg Cafe
Savatage
Cynic
Half of Transatlantic

I'm sure there's more I'm missing/haven't heard.

Edit: Not all of these are listed in PA, but I don't care.Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2010 at 00:18
Shadowfax, Spyro Gyra, Fareed Haque Group, and Kick the Cat all deserve mention in the jazz-rock fusion space. 

Kick the Cat gives classic Brand X a good run for their money!! 

Chicago has its own little progressive music scene & has produced some fine musicians over the years, some of whom I haven't heard from in ages (Apprentice comes to mind).  Apprentice nearly blew Brand X off the stage back in the early 1980's from what I've heard.  

Sorry for you Europeans, you don't know what you are missing over here!   Chicago has it all, right now we are in the middle of the Chicago Blues Fest.  Stop on by, but please note, we don't take Euros.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2010 at 00:31
Kansas
Happy The Man
IZZ
Cryptic Vision
Helmet of Gnats
Frogg Cafe
Nima and Merge
Return to Forever
Dixie Dregs
Spock' Beard
Echolyn
Enchant
Dream Theater
Lots of great American Prog band around. 
I don't consider Frank Zappa to be progressive Rock. l  I consider him to be in a class all by himself. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2010 at 02:23
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

What do you mean few? There is lots of prog in the states, IMO the problem with the states is that the fans for such niche genres are too wide spread on a huge area of land, making it very difficult for niche (ergo not rich nor heavily backed) bands to invest in touring. On the contrary, if you want to make a short Western European tour comprising, say, Amsterdam, The Hague, Bruxelles, Luxembourg, Koln, Frankfurt, Paris and London, that would imply 3-4 hours max. car drives from one city to another. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 16:06
For whatever reason Kansas has always annoyed me.  No particular reason, just not my cup of tea.  Advent is a serious contender. Kamelot is right up there. I think though for my money it would be Spock's Beard after the departure of Neil Morse.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 16:12
In my opinion....

Spock's Beard/Neal Morse
Echolyn
Frank Zappa
Kevin Gilbert
Savatage
Dream Theater
Queensryche

I'm probably forgetting a bunch...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 16:12
The Doors. Amazingly they are not considered to be prog by most prog listeners though. Strange; for me they always were.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 16:15
Spock's Beard (with Neal Morse), without much hesitation.

Honorable mentions to Echolyn, Happy the Man, Liquid Tension Experiment,
and (some) Dream Theater.
Kansas is among the fantastic bands that I consider to have pushed strongly
in the prog direction, but not enough to be classified (by me, anyway) as prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 16:30
Bloodrock, how could i forget Bloodrock
         they are not considered prog, though some of their music does come close (Bloodrock USA, for example)
          many people define the band according to their hit "DOA", but there is much more to the group than that
          actually, i would say that they would be my favourite American band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 18:04
Some excellent one-offs from 'across the Pond', (such as Mithrandir) but longevity contributes to greatness to some extent...?
 
For the mainstream progger earlier Kansas and Starcastle come to mind fairly easily - also Land's End have proved consistently enjoyable over quite a few years, as have Magellan.
 
(Somebody mentioned Canada - are the Tea Party too rock-ist?  'Splendor Solis' and the two follow-ups were well worth an ear.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 20:31
I always considered The Tea Party to be prog, though I must admit I heard only one album of them.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2010 at 18:02
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Todd Rundgren did some good things too.
And venturing a bit to the borders of actual prog, guitarists such as Steve Vai and Shawn Lane.
If the question was ONE ALBUM, and it had to be not just proggy but Prog by most any standard, and as excellent as any English or Italian release, it would have to be this...



Hands down too.  Because it's not jazzy or metal-y or any of that.  It just glories in that rock we've come to call prog.  Well, side one anyway.  But I give about the same side-one leeway to Tarkus, so it counts.

Bands?  It ain't DT!Shocked

Zappa
Beefheart
Yezda Urfa
BÖC
Miles Davis at times
Return to Forever
Weather Report

All I can think of right now.  Best of all these?  Sheesh.  Zappa or Yezda Urfa, depending on your definition - not that there's any contest in terms of output (Zappa obviously amazing in multitudinous ways), but because Yezda was really making prog, really doing it (ie, putting aside the boring argument of whether prog exists, they were consciously making a music expressly to fit that bill).

One last thing: Worst ever?  Has to be Flight.  Ooof, embarrassing, avoid at all costs.

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2010 at 23:24
How about Spirit with Randy California?  Or there is another band called Prymary. Saw them at a small club and they are really tight.
Klipsch, so much it Hz
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2010 at 23:36
Don't forget the Yanks who contributed to so many prog bands!

Adrian Belew, Tony Levin, Daryl Stuermer, etc.

Also, I think the California Guitar Trio are all Yanks.  

I liked Kansas back in the '70's, but last time I saw them on TV, they were hurtin' for certain!!   They looked more like ZZ Top!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2010 at 06:13
I agree, for a country this size there aren't that many. My favorites are Kansas, Dream Theatre, Dixie Dregs and almost all those already mentioned. Also Umphrey's Magee. We have a band in New Orleans called Woodenhead that has been around since the 70's I think.  They play all around the country and open for a lot of prog acts.
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