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Geizao
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:29 |
Fripp took a difficult sound and heavily guitar sound that hard to play, and he played a difficult sections pretty well in In The Court Of The Crimson King (An Observation by King Crimson). So does Gilmour in Shine On You Crazy Diamond. A heavily high blues-prog sound he made pretty well!
But (damn it) I like what Dave did, just 51%.
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t-bear
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:49 |
I think that Gilmour is one of the best in the blues arena and he took it to new territory. Shine On You Crazy Diamond is one of his best. The solo on Comfortably Numb hits me in to the inner depths of my soul.
Still Fripp is the better choice, overall
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uduwudu
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:37 |
As Fripp eschews the blues as a form and Gilmour is rooted in the blues and they are both highly significant in the world of Art Rock then perhaps the poll is a very good idea. The point of a poll (an honest one like you get here on P.A.) is to enable thought and consideration.
So Gilmour went from being quite the experimental accompaniest in PF's 68 -72 era to building his blues based space rock soloing thereafter Fripp began in the stratosfears (sic) and shifted universe several times. It is superficially Apples and Oranges but as the two guitarists occupy areas of music with little overlap in territory (unusual in prog rock) the the poll highlights the breadth and depth. And that's just footling around ith Floyd and Crim (and all related) albums.
Of course one comparison that might be closer is Belew guitar vocals vs Gilmour Guitar vocals and Fripp as demon driver master mind of KC and Waters as demagogic PF inspiration.
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t-bear
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:29 |
Good points brought up but I think the comparison is one that really needs no poll. As noted, there is little overlap in their respective areas. It is more of a question of preference. Since I like both, it becomes even more problematic. But, Fripp and Gilmour are fantasitc. I just lean more toward Fripp.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 22:30 |
Gilmour's almost getting even with Fripp (60 votes Gilmour, 61 Fripp at the moment I'm writing). Given the way this poll started and being this a Prog site, I didn't expect Gilmour to get so close.
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Mr. Maestro
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 18:33 |
Wow. 62 to 62. 50% percent each. Hate to ruin it, but I've gotta give my vote to Gilmour. He's just as innovative as Fripp, but he's also more creative and musically adept.
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trackstoni
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 22:44 |
Can't Cast My Vote on this One , Sorry , but there's no need to compete Two of the best Guitar Players in 42 years . But if the Question of the Poll is < who i prefer more ?> I Prefer not to Answer !
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 22:54 |
Mr. Maestro wrote:
Wow. 62 to 62. 50% percent each. Hate to ruin it, but I've gotta give my vote to Gilmour. He's just as innovative as Fripp, but he's also more creative and musically adept. |
I fail to see how slowwwwwwly pecking at the blues scale is more creative or musically adept than, say, jazz-metal, classical guitar, interlocking pieces or Frippertronics.
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CyberDiablo
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 10:45 |
Wow! It's a draw, 64 to 64! I couldn't decide.
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octopus-4
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 11:06 |
It's not question of skill. Gilmour gives me more emotions.
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elder08
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 11:15 |
Gilmour I mean Fripp is an amazing man and musician but Gilmour manages to do a lot with a little like that one guy said earlier he might only play one note every 18 minutes but its how it makes you feel not how fast he is going
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 11:18 |
This crap about "feeling" is absurd.
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Malve87
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 11:20 |
What's absurd actually it's your will to change other people's taste.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 11:26 |
*plays a note*
wait
wait
wait
wait a bit more
*plays another note, bending the string this time*
EMOTION!
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himtroy
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 12:04 |
I think people are going overboard by discrediting feel as I think its very important.. But I agree that Gilmour is boring with his hitting one note every twenty seconds. Zappa plays with a lot of feel, but he still plays unique and interesting things. Gilmour plays some pretty generic rock licks a lot of the time and doesn't do much for me. That being said, I can still enjoy early Pink Floyd a lot.
Forgot about Fripp..... I think Fripp absolutely dominates David Gilmour. Fripp is a true innovator and is more unique and skilled than anyone I can think of.
Edited by himtroy - June 09 2010 at 12:06
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 12:06 |
I agree Gilmour's music and playing is highly emotional, but also I can't really think of a more emotional in prog (guitar playing included) than in Starless.
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The Monodrone
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 15:12 |
^ Starless is a great counter-song for the emotional debate. Perhaps Fripp's most "emotional" playing ever.
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enigma
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 15:21 |
Fripp can certainly play and is very subtle, not in your face with solos. I think that subtlety comes because he is too busy trying to push the boundaries that his playing becomes less obvious.
Gilmour has an effortless quality - he is happiest in his comfort zone, less of an innovator but a master in his field.
Hemispheres - the battle of Heart and Mind.
Heart wins it, Gilmour gets my vote.
I would like to see how Jeff Beck would come out in this poll as I think he is a mixture of the 2. Innovator and experimental with great feel.
Edit : Fripp could probably play like Gilmour if he wanted to, moreso than Gilmour could play like Fripp. So Fripp is probably the better guitarist, but my vote went on what they actually choose to play.
Edited by enigma - June 09 2010 at 15:36
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enigma
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 15:23 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
This crap about "feeling" is absurd.
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This crap about music not being able to stir the emotions is absurd.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:44 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
*plays a note*
wait
wait
wait
wait a bit more
*plays another note, bending the string this time*
EMOTION!
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Plays a bunch of different note 1450 times in a second.
And then plays another 1450 notes times in a second.
And so no for the next couples of minutes or seconds.
EMOTION!
I trule say to you that you must hear Cannibal Corpse, sure there's action in that field.
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