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Finnforest
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Posted: June 02 2010 at 05:46 | |
opethpainter
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Posted: June 02 2010 at 16:50 | |
too bad i've never listened to them before...
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 03 2010 at 21:45 | |
Vault pick: To Torodd today!
Picchio Dal Pozzo Picchio Dal Pozzo Canterbury Scene Review by
toroddfuglesteg
It has taken me some time to fully appreciate this record because of it's complex jazz, avant- garde and Canterbury structures. My words is not adequate enough to describe this album either so feel free to read the other reviews written by more intelligent persons than me. No offense taken. Picchio Dal Pozzo comes from Italy and that is all I know. I have their other albums, but I guess it will take some time before I even start to contemplate reviewing them. I regard Picchio Dal Pozzo as being the weird part of the weirdo scene. The music....... I get some Soft Machine vibes during the opening tones of this album. Merta could had been done by them on Fifth/Six/Seven. My other reference source is Matching Mole and Robert Wyatt's first solo albums. Add Gong and Hatfield & The North to the mix too. In other words; the jazzy side of the Canterbury Scene. The music here has nothing whatsoever to do with pop or rock. This is the least accessible Canterbury Scene album my ears have ever bled through. And that says a lot. Caravan, it ain't. The opening track Mertia has already been mentioned. The brilliant Cocomelastico is Canterbury jazz at it's best. The ten minutes long Seppia too have a lot going for it too with it's jazz breaks. There is some mindless avant-garde nodding around on this album too. But my main impression is that this is a gem of an album with a magic sound and feeling. I cannot pinpoint which part of the sound which fascinates me so. But I find this album very fascinating. Tracks like Off draws me in and keep me pressing the repeat button. Maybe the interesting use of windhorns and the obvious references to Soft Machine draws me in. I do not care that much about it's avant-garde nodding. But I love the rest of the stuff here. This album has been an excellent, eyeopening addition to my collection. I can say so much. 4 stars |
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American Khatru
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 03:40 | |
Sorry I took so long to get back. Like you are I'm sure, I'm glad to have these incredible gems from Italy, even if at the expense of bad recording or production. But ooo boy. And did you catch that woeful acoustic guitar I was talking about in the first song? Shoulda grabbed a tuner, a fork, something.
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Nightfly
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 14:17 | |
^ Ha ha...yeah. I'm sure time wasn't on their side so we can forgive them. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 22:58 | |
Vault pick: from Thomas
Samadhi Samadhi Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
tszirmay
This is the little silent record from the glory years of the Italian
School of Progressive that garners not
only scant attention but hardly even a whimper of anything. I am glad
that I clued Finnforest onto this
because it is really deserving of some serious applause. Yes, Finnforest
aptly relayed the brief history,
one shot in the dark status (which doesn't always help in getting
noticed), sort of a lesser known
Maxophone. . Save for the finale ,most tracks are short by prog
standards between 3 and 6
minutes . "Uomo Stanco" (Tired Man) starts off the festivities with
Luciano Regoli's fascinating vocals
leading the way, in a jazzy romp featuring some airy melodies well
anchored by the typical ace rhythm
section of bassist Aldo Bellanova and drumster Sandro Conti. This solid
confidence gives soloists
Stefano Sabatini on keys and the reputed guitarist Nanni Civitenga room
to lay down some seductive
lines. The following piece "Un Millione d'Anni Fa " is an absolute
highlight with serious symphonics
pushing the pleasure zones, with some whimsical oboe work and a main
theme that is sheer beauty
and passion. As good as anything by the other ISP big boys. "L'Angelo"
concentrates on showcasing the
broad range of Regoli's voice and Nanni's cyclonic guitar, acoustic and
harsher electric grooving with
some ornate piano work as well. "Passagio di Via Arpino" dives into more
flute-led jazz areas (fine e-
piano, brass blasts and slick drumming) , this is clear-cut jazz-rock
that will please even the tightest
critics , Sabatini's keywork in particular is scintillating, passing the
torch to Civitenga's wah-laden,
chugging guitar phrasings that exude not only technique but a slight
sense of mania that is most
pleasing, finishing the comp off with some more flute explorations,
another first rate track. "Fantasia"
serves up some more upbeat rhythms, the bass meticulously leading the
way, more swooping vocals
and criss-crossing melodies, very cool and elegant and the flute again
adding that touch of "légèreté"
that is instantly appealing. "Silenzio" is more experimental, much less
conventional colorations, with the
guitar as the main protagonist, keeping things actually simpler and more
linear (some nice Eminent -
String synth like instrument- work from Sabatini), with dashes of
creative oddity. The 8 minute finale
really is the main jewel here, simply exposing all those traits that
make ISP so attractive, heavenly
melodies, glorious inspiration, technically superb playing by all , all
presented in a chiseled and
structured package, piano leading the way, each instrumentalist
interfacing with their own expressions
of style and craft, hinting at early King Crimson territories but with
that definite Italian feel, constantly
seasoned with some new and unexpected quirk, extraordinary vocal choir
work that is simply hair-
raising, ripping with unabashed passion again the flute soothing things
out nicely. Great percussion
work throughout, by the way... The final three minutes are symphonic
bliss at its finest, on par with
anything by anyone, ever, building slowly to an impossible crescendo
Madonna mia ! No ISP collection
is worthy without this fine single jewel ..Una vera bellezza ... 4.5
solitary stars
Edited by Finnforest - June 04 2010 at 23:01 |
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 23:16 | |
I just got Uomo di Pezza and Felona e Sorona. Just heard Felona, which sounds cool, I'll give Uomo a listen in a few moments. With these I already have the 6 higher rated albums on the RPI list (2 from Banco, 2 from PFM, and this two). Plus another few darker albums. A small collection of RPI, but later on I may find something else I may want to get.
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 23:18 | |
Awesome Dellinger! Those are two GREAT choices. I like Felona better, but many like Uomo better. Both are awesome. What are the other darker albums?
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 23:37 | |
Well, perhaps not so very dark, but darker that the top 6 for sure. It's YS by Il Balleto di Bronzo, and Inferno by Metamorfosi. As a matter of fact Inferno is perhaps my favourite of the albums I've got, together with Darwin. And the duo of songs Introduction / Primo Incontro never fail to amaze me. I also have Comme in un ultima cena by Banco, a greatest hits from Le Orme, and an RPI collection from various artists which includes a book suposedly with the whole RPI discography. This is my small collection so far.
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 23:44 | |
Ooohhh, you have good taste man, those are awesome. I like dark RPI too, even the out there stuff like Jacula.
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tszirmay
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 13:32 | |
Finally got Cherry 5, the latest Il Castello di Atlante and the amazing Il Nome del Vento from Delerium . All are fabulosi!
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 15:13 | |
Oooh, I do look forward Thomas treatment of the Delirium. That will be good reading.
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 15:22 | |
Italian Prog News from my sources....
By early next year, you should have new releases by.... Delirium live DVD! (actually this one will be this year) Il Bacio Della Medusa....live DVD/CD/LP Jacula! That's right, dark lovers....there is new Jacula in the can. Can't imagine them without Charles, but I'll withhold judgement till I hear it. Antonius Rex: new album next year Doris Norton: Reissues of her solo albums |
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Nightfly
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 14:45 | |
^ Good news Jim.
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:45 | |
Yeah, I'm pretty psyched Paul. Lots of good things coming.
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:50 | |
Vault pick.....modern day RPI group
Senza Nome Senza Nome Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
andrea
The next track "Passi" (Steps) is a beautiful simple and delicate acoustic ballad that begins with recitative vocals declaiming some passages from Antoine De Saint-Exupery's novel "The Little Prince", it's the episode where the fox asks to the Little Prince to be tamed and the song is about the need to "establish ties"... "By now I will be with you forever... I will feel forever your steps inside my steps... In me there's your immensity / That will give me advice / In every single thought / In every single moment / We'll never be alone...". The long and complex Tumore (Tumour) is probably the best track on the album, in the vein of early BMS' epics like "R.I.P." or "Metamorfosi". The piece is almost completely instrumental with many changes of rhythm and a short dramatic vocal part... "To be / To have a look / To feel pain / Living a life that you'll never know / There's a part of me that can't stand it / Tumour of the Universe..." "Non sono mai esistito" (I was never born) try to blend Latin rock rhythms "à la Santana" with philosophical lyrics about the dichotomy between reality and unreality, but it's not on the same level of the other tracks... The long complex "Ulisse" (Odysseus) is another great piece, featuring an epic atmosphere with lyrics inspired by the adventures of the Greek hero depicted by Homer and a recitative part freely taken from Dante Alighieri's "Divina commedia". There are many changes of rhythm and mood and very interesting instrumental breaks... Good also "Si la do" (a short instrumental in the vein of BMS' Traccia with a touch of "Area") and the conclusive acoustic and delicate "Sopra a un pensiero" (Upon a thought). There is also an enhanced "goliardic" video of "Si la do" but it's nothing special... The album features a beautiful art cover and a booklet with pictures and full lyrics: not a bad at all for a completely self- produced and self-distributed work (it can be purchased directly from the official website of the band)... This album is not flawless, but on the whole it's a very good work for an emerging band that deserves credit... |
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Todd
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 01:03 | |
^ Yeah, that's a really good album. One of those growers!
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 09 2010 at 19:05 | |
Vault pick: An interesting album with members of Napoli Centrale
Showmen 2 Showmen 2 Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
Finnforest
Important but little-known RPI band
Showmen were a Naples band important in RPI history as well as rock and roll. The first incarnation dates to 1966 and included in its line-up Elio d'Anna, who would go on to form the RPI powerhouse Osanna. The first line-up blended Italian pop with soul/R and B and had several successful singles before breaking up around 1970. Shortly after this, several members joined some new musicians to form Showmen 2 which would attempt to blend some of the original Showmen sound with the exciting new rock sounds that were beginning to permeate Italy. This line-up is the one of interest to RPI fans as it produced the fine 1972 album Showmen 2. While together they played at the 1972 Genova Pop Festival and other open air festivals of the day. The story is a familiar one: the album didn't sell particularly well and the band broke up shortly after this, with Senese and Del Prete going on to form Napoli Centrale, who actually were quite successful and recorded several jazz-rock albums. Showmen 2's history spans the beat and progressive eras, with points of interest in both. Their lone album features elements of their recent past blended with distinctive nods into the surging RPI scene. While not wildly avant-garde by any means, the excitement of the moment is felt in the spirited jamming, blended styles, and occasional splash in the prog-sound ocean. The Showmen 2 album is quite a good one with an interesting mix of sounds powerful and passive. Most tracks are 7-8 minutes long and have plenty of time to show off the considerable talents in playing, singing, and arrangements. The opening cut is a stunner with up front and muscular bass playing, really active and in-your-face which I love. To me it feels almost like a bit of the more rocking early Chicago crossed with Rare Earth, made especially bold by the two male vocals. The vocals have to be emphasized on this album. They are blue collar and gregarious throughout, vibrant and always belted out with no fanciness, reminding me of Raminghi. The grooving rhythm section and vocal sections are augmented with occasional light use of horns, not the hard-edged brass of Officina Meccanica but a Chicago style trombone, I believe. A nice amped up electric solo cuts through with bite. As quickly as you think you have Showmen 2 pegged the second track shifts gears completely, sounding like some lost Tull or Renaissance track. Acoustic guitar, flute, and piano drift in a very ethereal, longing mood showing that Showmen were very interested in the current scene. A melodic and lighter vocal is introduced here, the mood and playing almost in the Reale Accademia territory. Suddenly the band will stop and the flute will simply appear again, very beautiful but melancholic. As the third track begins Showmen are really getting out there, with spooky spoken intro and screaming guitar feedback. But soon return the melodic and impeccably tasteful rock of the first track, with good changes and superb two-part vocals. The second side continues with consistent strength, introducing a bit of folk influence in spots. Some moments are bringing to mind the band Libra or Samadhi while in other places they are having enough fun to remind me of the Blue Brothers. The bottom line is an album that does not break significant ground in any prog sense, but certainly plays with the freedom of the moment in a way that is quite satisfying on top of what this band really is: just one hell of a rock and roll band. The "Pound for a Brown" Blog notes: "Musically this is a mighty discovery. It consists of long tracks, and simply amazing songs that glue your ears to the music. It's definitely heavy prog like you've never heard until you hear this. A superb recording, mixing prog with heavy psych on a jazz framework." Recommended for RPI historians first and foremost, but also for anyone interested in the bands I noted. Showmen 2 will not let you down in quality or enthusiasm. The BTF/AMS reissue is another high quality gatefold mini-lp sleeve with good sound quality, though it is a disappointment that the Bio is not translated to English. Usually they do this for us. 3 ½ stars for me, though not quite enough for me to round up. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 22:43 | |
Nice job Chris
Petali di fuoco La Maschera Di Cera Rock Progressivo Italiano
Review by
seventhsojourn
I'm surprised that Nightfly's is the only review of Petali Di Fuoco here
on ProgArchives. I might
be wrong but it seems to be getting over-shadowed by the recent
Raccomandata Ricevuta
Ritorno album. Hopefully that situation will change in the near future.
Anyway, there are 10
tracks in total here that are mostly around 5 to 7 minutes in length.
This is exciting, passionate
music that focuses on the interaction between vintage keyboards
(Mellotron, Moog, organ) and
flute, as on the instrumental PHOENIX. Guitarist Matteo Nahum plays a
largely supporting role
although he has some great solos throughout the album, most notably on
the dramatic
closing song LA NOTTE TRASPARENTE.
Nahum also gets the chance to shine on 4.18, which is a short Horizons-style acoustic interlude. IL DECLINO is slightly heavier than the rest of the material and, along with tracks like the jazz-tinged DISCESA, provides a bit of variety to the proceedings. La Maschera Di Cera write some great songs (I haven't even mentioned the album's five best tracks in this review), and in Alessandro Corvaglia they have a vocalist in the best red-blooded Italian tradition. I need to be careful with my recommendations but I think that if you enjoy Symphonic Prog, and if you don't mind Italian vocals, then you should enjoy this. It's already shaping up as one of my favourites of 2010 and if you're an RPI fan you really should have this. |
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Todd
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 01:05 | |
Yes! So far that's my favorite 2010 Italian release.
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