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Marty McFly
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 05:20 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Conor Fynes wrote:
So, this might seem like a weird place to talk about this..
but my girlfriend of a year and a half and I broke up on the phone about 10 minutes ago.
I have funny feelings in my stomach right now.
The question is... what do I do now? |
 You're asking advice on love on a prog forum, where most of the members (not all, mind you) are self-declared virgin/loser/celibate or unsociable????
You must be masochist.... or you really must wish for that break up to be definitive
Is she worth it?? Did you have fun almost all of the time????
I'd say sleep on it and talk it over with her tomorrow  |
Hugues, I wonder who am I when I'm quite unsociable person who is currently happily in relationship for 16 long months with a girl who is equally unsociable as I am. Therefore, we are two unsociable persons who like to be unsociable together. Friends aren't that important to us as each other is. Of course, this is also caused by music we are listening, not many people are able to understand Prog. Who knows why, maybe people in general doesn't like to think. But it's scary how many people are declaring their virginity, makes me think about differences between cultures. Losers ? And these losers often things they are winners :-D Hugues, I suppose you are luckily married guy, am I right ?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 07:13 |
I was with my last girlfriend for a few years. We got engaged and really close to marriage. Split up mostly amicably. She initiated it. Within a few weeks, I met the woman who became my wife. So if it's truly over don't sweat it. I don't know about the whole deodorant thing. I actually happen to smell naturally good. So try again. And I am a firm believer in the power of masturbation to make you feel a little better.  By the way the relationship with my former girlfriend didn't occur until I was in my late 20's, so don't be afraid to take a break from love.
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:35 |
Thanks for your opinions guys...
The advice I want isn't actualy about the girl that it's over with; I just couldn't deal with it anymore. It was just too miserable, and alot of fighting.
I'm trying to figure out how an internet addicted Prog fan meets new girls and initiates relationships with them!
What do girls look for?
And how not to be friends material??
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June
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:45 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
Thanks for your opinions guys...
The advice I want isn't actualy about the girl that it's over with; I just couldn't deal with it anymore. It was just too miserable, and alot of fighting.
I'm trying to figure out how an internet addicted Prog fan meets new girls and initiates relationships with them!
What do girls look for?
And how not to be friends material?? |
I'm an internet addicted music fan and I met my new man on last.fm. Well, he met me there, and joined a music forum I was on just to get to know me better. All right, so we're still at the long distance level atm, but it's still kinda new. I'm just trying to say that it happens. He is honest, open, mature and he treats me right. Can I speak for all women? No. Does that pretty cover what all sane people look for in a partner though? Most likely. Avoiding to be friend material? Ermmm... a couple of subtle but not too subtle lines that are both flirty and complimentary and if she doesn't respond, move on?
Edited by June - June 07 2010 at 21:49
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:48 |
HAH, I'm a reviewer on Prog Archives. Have I the charm to think of subtle lines? No, but I can certainly recommend you an album if you're trying to get into Porcupine Tree.
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June
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 21:52 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
HAH, I'm a reviewer on Prog Archives. Have I the charm to think of subtle lines? No, but I can certainly recommend you an album if you're trying to get into Porcupine Tree. |
Yeah, but see, I think it has to do with honesty though. I mean, if you feel something that's flattering, just say it, even if it's just "I'm interested in you." Seriously, one the line that made me fall for that guy and probably made me decide to meet him was "I was listening to Coltrane thinking about you". It's subtle, it's charming. It's geeky, but who cares.
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 01:31 |
LOL I'll have to use that line sometime! =D
"So... I was listening to Psyopus thinking of you.."
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Falx
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 03:08 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
Thanks for your opinions guys...
The advice I want isn't actualy about the girl that it's over with; I just couldn't deal with it anymore. It was just too miserable, and alot of fighting.
I'm trying to figure out how an internet addicted Prog fan meets new girls and initiates relationships with them!
What do girls look for?
And how not to be friends material?? |
Apparently, girls are attracted to guys who are... <any word I would use is going to be blocked by the filter>... not very nice people. Aggression and risk-taking behaviour trigger some primal impulse and make them want to get it on. If you're cuddly and non-threatening, that puts you squarely in "friendsville". =F=
Edited by Falx - June 08 2010 at 03:09
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:42 |
Falx wrote:
Conor Fynes wrote:
Thanks for your opinions guys...
The advice I want isn't actualy about the girl that it's over with; I just couldn't deal with it anymore. It was just too miserable, and alot of fighting.
I'm trying to figure out how an internet addicted Prog fan meets new girls and initiates relationships with them!
What do girls look for?
And how not to be friends material?? | Apparently, girls are attracted to guys who are... <any word I would use is going to be blocked by the filter>... not very nice people. Aggression and risk-taking behaviour trigger some primal impulse and make them want to get it on. If you're cuddly and non-threatening, that puts you squarely in "friendsville".=F= |
It can seem that way, but it's not really the case. Women like confidence in men, and confidence shouldn;t be confused with aggression. Women like a man who can take charge of a situation. They like men who are popular with and respected by their male friends. They like men who still respect their ex girlfrineds..but dont keep in touch with them
Sometimes women who have come from violent or unstable backgrounds like the 'bad guys' you're referring to, and although these women can seem quite compelling and attractive, they are to be avoided at all costs!!
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 04:44 |
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:14 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 05:31 |
I wasn't in touch with my ex since a long time as we were separated by thousands miles, but when we moved to France we stumbled upon her. She had moved here many years ago and chances were high we'd meet at the Embassy or something like that... and we did meet
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 11:47 |
Falx wrote:
Conor Fynes wrote:
Thanks for your opinions guys...
The advice I want isn't actualy about the girl that it's over with; I just couldn't deal with it anymore. It was just too miserable, and alot of fighting.
I'm trying to figure out how an internet addicted Prog fan meets new girls and initiates relationships with them!
What do girls look for?
And how not to be friends material?? | Apparently, girls are attracted to guys who are... <any word I would use is going to be blocked by the filter>... not very nice people. Aggression and risk-taking behaviour trigger some primal impulse and make them want to get it on. If you're cuddly and non-threatening, that puts you squarely in "friendsville".
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Unfortunately, I think this is a hundred percent correct. While it's true that someone who isnt threatening can still attract a girl or two, I can definately see the primal 'alpha male' thing at work all the time. I guess I'll just have to work on that a bit more and show that I am one of those, or at least pretend to be 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 11:50 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
What do girls look for?
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A big schlong without too much bad attitude. 
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 12:05 |
ORLY?!? I thought they just wanted a sweet guy who was sensitive and cared about their feelings?
LOL I'm just kidding obviously. 
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:32 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
Falx wrote:
Conor Fynes wrote:
Thanks for your opinions guys...
The advice I want isn't actualy about the girl that it's over with; I just couldn't deal with it anymore. It was just too miserable, and alot of fighting.
I'm trying to figure out how an internet addicted Prog fan meets new girls and initiates relationships with them!
What do girls look for?
And how not to be friends material?? | Apparently, girls are attracted to guys who are... <any word I would use is going to be blocked by the filter>... not very nice people. Aggression and risk-taking behaviour trigger some primal impulse and make them want to get it on. If you're cuddly and non-threatening, that puts you squarely in "friendsville".=F= |
Unfortunately, I think this is a hundred percent correct. While it's true that someone who isnt threatening can still attract a girl or two, I can definately see the primal 'alpha male' thing at work all the time. I guess I'll just have to work on that a bit more and show that I am one of those, or at least pretend to be  |
Read what I wrote in response to this claim. I promise you it's not the case. I'll say it again, women like confidence, not obnoxiousness. The type of women who do habitually get involved with arsehole men, will never be right for you, and for that you should count yourself lucky!!
Oh yeah, and don't pretend to be something you're not. Women see through that straight away, and you wont be able to sustain the new 'bad guy' you, anyway..
Edited by Blacksword - June 08 2010 at 13:33
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:42 |
That depends. Did you actually love her? If so, you have the option to give up and remain single the rest of your life (if you meet someone else who you love "more", it means you didn't love her at all in the first place) or fight for her. If not, well, what the typical love cricket does is find someone else who the back of the mind knows isn't really for them but the left cerebrum convinces them that that person is their one and only Savior. You'll tell her you love her, probably f**k her, then slowly but surely care less for her until you wait until she breaks up with you, or more respectably break up with her. You will then annoy your friends about how sad you are. In this stage, the back of your mind doesn't mind at all and knows that it's all done, but you're bitch of a left cerebrum keeps telling you to act depressed and pretend that you've lost all hope. But then in a couple of weeks, you'll meet someone else. Rinse and repeat. However, you don't seem like a love cricket. In fact, you seem pretty genuine.  So I'd recommend finding someone else, and be more careful about finding someone who can agree to disagree, and can still love you even with the difference of opinion. Obviously, you have to love her as well. Once (or if, for the love of cynical people) you find this person, the rest is up to you.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 13:46 |
Conor Fynes wrote:
ORLY?!? I thought they just wanted a sweet guy who was sensitive and cared about their feelings?
LOL I'm just kidding obviously.  |
It's kind of weird because I would categorize my first long term girlfriend as more of a girl than a woman in that she didn't really know what she wanted to do in life. That ultimately was what probably killed the relationship. Of course you may have to figure out what the hell you want to do yourself to find a stable and long lasting relationship. So, seriously, figure yourself out, find someone who has figured herself out, and you will greatly increase your chances of success. They're no guarantees of course.
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Nightshine
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 14:02 |
Asking a member of these forums for love advice is like asking Bill O Reilly to host an equality rights convention.
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 08 2010 at 17:11 |
I'm finding it's just a pain to meet people. Practically all the women I know hold torches for friends of mine or we're so tangled up in friendship its stupid to try to figure anything out from that. Not that I even want to start a relationship with a friend I've had for years. Well this post isn't about love I guess. I'm just starting over. Things seem clearer now that I can look back and see how retarded I was for not taking advantage of college, not in the crude hooking up sense but just that it's a place with a lot of people my age in a dense area, with people who are relatively smart. Now I have to try to work a city to find people I connect with. Doubly hard when I'm looking for work. Things can come together quickly, though.
Love for me is a weird thing (probably is for everyone). After a failed start at the beginning of last school year I realized that wanting to get laid is a horrible horrible desire. It will make you make disgusting decisions for yourself and others. There's a tip for everyone. If you want to be close to someone, don't get started with wrong intentions. Bad things happen. Lessons learned.
Anyway, random thoughts. Take as you will.
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