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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 21:49
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

I really really dislike the part where a voice introduces all the instruments in Mike Olfield's Tubular Bells. Big deal! Dead  Felt it was very condescending and self-important.
 
Yep. This ruins Tubular Bells for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 21:45
I really really dislike the part where a voice introduces all the instruments in Mike Olfield's Tubular Bells. Big deal! Dead  Felt it was very condescending and self-important.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 20:51
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

This is pretentious, silly and unnecessary.
 


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<SPAN lang=ES-PE>But normally pretentious is good, if compared with conformist.....I go with pretentious.</SPAN>

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True! but fun to watch!

Some math rock is absurdly pretentious (LIFT YOUR SKINNY FISTS LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN)... it makes ELP and Yes look like conformist kids...

I love pretentious music!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 20:43
Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:


Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


Originally posted by otto pankrock otto pankrock wrote:

TFTO-Absolute sludge.
You have failed.

tales haters need putting in their place

Agreed!

Same with Tarkus haters!

I am thirsty of blood!

Edited by ProgressiveAttic - June 05 2010 at 20:45
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 19:13
Actually, Kayo Dot's DAWCT. They are so pretentious they really think 14 minutes of unchanged repetition is great music...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 19:06
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Just about anything Rick Wakeman did LOL
 
I mean. On Ice . 
 
As a fact this wasn't Rick's fault.
 
He had a 3 heart attacks very young and he had made a terrible contract with A&M (Almost slavery for what I read), so he was told he would not play anymore.
 
After he was told to retire by the doctors he wrote The Last Battle that same night and also most of King Arthur in the Wexham Park Hospital,
 
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Thankfully I ignored the advice, wrote The Last Battle that night, and carried on. Heart surgery has come a long way since the mid seventies as well thankfully

 

So he was very short of money,.and due to the fact he faced his mortality, wanted to leave money to his family.

He accepted a series of concerts in Wembley in 1975 (shortly after his heart attack), but there was an ice show simultaneously

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This was Rick Wakeman's third, high-profile effort as a solo artist. It is probably best remembered today for its accompanying live performances, which boldly went were no man had gone before (nor since, thankfully): Prog Rock meets the Ice Follies. To be fair (and perhaps to help us all feel a bit safer sleeping tonight), the King Arthur Capades didn't happen because Rick originally conceived it that way, but out of a scheduling necessity to accommodate with the incipient venue, which was having an ice show right before the planned concerts.
 
 
The Ice show had a previous contract, so he had two options:
  1. Invest a lot of money turning the ice circuit into a normal floor and back again to icebefore every show
  2. Reject the contract
 
Being that he required money, he couldn't afford any of the two options,  he dis what any responsible "pater familias" would had done, make the show and accept the critics in order to get some bucks.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 18:52
The real answer here is Thick as a Brick.
 
I find it completely hilarious that, after 40-odd years, we are STILL being had by Ian Anderson's overtly pretentious send-up of a genre. It's in our top 10, for crying out loud. Then again, it really is awfully good...
 
....And this, my friends, is what we call "irony".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 18:48
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Falx Falx wrote:

The Lamb. All of it.

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EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!

It takes up two entire LPs, in all fairness TFTO deserves a mention too Tongue

Now, Quadrophenia on the other hand, is a masterpiece.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 15:05
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

None - If people just looked at ridiculous "celebrities" such as the Big Brother mob, Cheryl Cole, bloody Jordan, "Madge" Madonna running around in catsuits when she's old enough to be most of the audiences mother, they would realise that is true pretension.

haha this made my day very true
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:57
None - If people just looked at ridiculous "celebrities" such as the Big Brother mob, Cheryl Cole, bloody Jordan, "Madge" Madonna running around in catsuits when she's old enough to be most of the audiences mother, they would realise that is true pretension.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:54
Just about anything Rick Wakeman did LOL
 
I mean. On Ice . 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:49
Wakeman's cape, most of Gabriels stage outfits,Tubular Bells, Carl Palmer's flying drum platform, Michael Moorcock doing 'Sonic Attack'. All of these things are a bit like watching 'The Office', they are brilliant, but they make you cringe the whole time. "I shouldn't be enjoying this"!! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:43
Originally posted by ptkc123 ptkc123 wrote:

ELP Tarkus. I strongly dislike the album, but that's just me... Stern Smile


Do we have another fail?!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:18
ELP Tarkus. I strongly dislike the album, but that's just me... Stern Smile
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 14:03
Well, I don't understand very well what you mean with "Pretentious", so I'll tell many moments I felt kinda... euphoric... while listening to prog :D

-The Story Of The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles.

-The 2 totally symphonic minutes between the Willow Farm and the Apocalypse in 9/8 of Genesis's Supper's Ready

-Apocalypse in 9/8

-Atom Heart Mother Suite. The GORGEOUS Atom Heart Mother Suite, I would add.

-Par Lindh Project - Baroque Impression No.1

-Ayreon - A lot of Ayreon's songs, Amazing Flight, Day 20 - Confrontation, many others.

-Minstrel. Almost every single song of theirs.

I think I've been quite prolific :P


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 13:54
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by otto pankrock otto pankrock wrote:

TFTO-Absolute sludge.


You have failed.
 
Seconded.


Thirded LOL
Yeah! I am listening to that album now, don't bring me down now!
 
Not listening to it because of this thread, it is just an (un)happy coincidence.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 12:37
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by otto pankrock otto pankrock wrote:

TFTO-Absolute sludge.


You have failed.
 
Seconded.


Thirded LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 12:37
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

Pretentiousness doesn't mean bad. The fact that TFTO is based on the works of Paramahansa Yogananda is one of the reasons I love prog; it is a genre of music that is unafraid to experiment and try new things even if it they risk ridicule for doing it.


being pretentious is what prog is all about but this thread is about when it was taken too far and i don't think tales was one of them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 12:36

Pretentiousness doesn't mean bad. The fact that TFTO is based on the works of Paramahansa Yogananda is one of the reasons I love prog; it is a genre of music that is unafraid to experiment and try new things even if it they risk ridicule for doing it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2010 at 12:32
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

This is pretentious, silly and unnecessary.
 
 
But normally pretentious is good, if compared with conformist.....I go with pretentious.
 
Iván

i loved the flying piano there is a difference between entertainment and pretentiousness and i think ELP stayed on the right side of that line until the Works albums and tour
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