Some artists that should be in prog related

Sometimes I think PA forgot some artists that are related to prog.
Like Joy Division. The English post-punk that Ian Curtis used to lead (30 years of dead, RIP Curtis), has some prog traces, like atmospheric keys, and singular bass lines. And the funeral vocals that influenced Anekdoten.
Bill Frisell is not there too. He played Clarinet before going to his guitar career, so the wind influence in his music is very marking. Highlights on "Where in the World?", released on 1991, features a load of guitar effects.

Jane's Addiction normally isn't prog, but they CAN be. Examples: Ted, Just Admit It..., Three Days, Summertime Rolls, etc. Besides, their song "Ocean Size" inspired the name of another band on this site.

thellama73 wrote: When you said "atmospheric keys" at first I thought you meant F# minor.

You should use this thread 

Probably number one for me here is Tori Amos. As has been endlessly said, she more or less IS Kate Bush, except perhaps a little more progressive. Bush gets a pass because of her relationship with David Gilmour and Peter Gabriel I think.

Klogg wrote: Sometimes I think PA forgot some artists that are related to prog. Like Joy Division. The English post-punk that Ian Curtis used to lead (30 years of dead, RIP Curtis), has some prog traces, like atmospheric keys, and singular bass lines. And the funeral vocals that influenced Anekdoten. Bill Frisell is not there too. He played Clarinet before going to his guitar career, so the wind influence in his music is very marking. Highlights on "Where in the World?", released on 1991, features a load of guitar effects.

Bill Frisel is here.

I love post-punk to death, and many such artists contain some prog traces, but that's not enough. Atmospheric keyboards? Too vague. And influence on a certain vocalist rather than an entire prog genre is far from enough.

I can pull out a few names that might be suitable for prog categories/prog related, but Joy Division is not among them. They revolutionized some aspects of rock music, but not progressive rock.

Textbook wrote: Probably number one for me here is Tori Amos. As has been endlessly said, she more or less IS Kate Bush, except perhaps a little more progressive. Bush gets a pass because of her relationship with David Gilmour and Peter Gabriel I think.

Tori is not more or less Kate Bush though her early stuff shows influence.  I know those two quite well.  I just got a Happy Rhodes CD the other day and there you can make the case.

By the way, Iván has put in a fairly restrictive definition of prog related so that many of the artists already there would be tossed out.  I don't happen to agree with it but here it is for what's it's worth:
"- Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre, AND

- Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community, AND

- Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog."

Item two is the one I have the biggest problem with.  Take that one away and I basically like the definition provided.  But hey, as soon as we all start agreeing on things we're probably in trouble.


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 26 2010 at 12:03

The Truth wrote:   (Sorry had to bring that up, Metallica does deserve to be on the site )

I want some of what you're smoking.



Dream Theater for prog-related.

Terry riley walks that fine line between "serious" composers and popular artists. While I love his music, I think letting him in would be a bad precedent because then we would have to consider Glass, Reich, Cage, Stockhausen, Varese, Lucier, Nancarrow, Subotnick, Ligeti, Xenakis and a host of other modern composers typically filed under "classical."

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: You should use this thread

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O.o Lol
I searched for Bill Frisell in letter B, how stupid >.<"