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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2010 at 20:17
When I was younger (9-12 y/o) I was a huge fan of all the current pop music like EminemDead. My dad always hated it and at one point even banned me from listening to stuff on his sound system (he's a bit of an audiophile). I had always liked rock, and my dad decided to show me some classics, but the first was Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon. The effects and the epic "spaced out" feel got me hooked. Especially shocking was Money; I had never heard a song in 7/4 time before! Later I got in to metal and prog-metal as well as some of the classics and I have been hooked ever since!Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2010 at 20:07
Tool - 2001
Pink Floyd - 2002
Can - 2004
King Crimson - 2005
Yes, Genesis, ELP - 2006
Caravan, Soft Machine and all the rest - 2007

Kinda gradual. But as I say, it's hard to draw the line between what is and isn't prog. You might say Soft Machine isn't prog at all. They're a super-complex jazz fusion band, at least on that amazing Third album which still sounds great 3 years after I first heard it.

Is Traffic prog? I've heard them described as that before, other times as just 'psychedelic'. I eschew strong genre classification, but things that kinda are within the progosphere including psychdelic rock, experimental jazz/fusion, noise/ambient and so on are often of interest to me as well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2010 at 19:53
Hmm... Some signposts along the way...

Pre-teen years -- Religious upbringing taught me "acid rock" was bad news...

1982 -- Asia (and John Cougar) are my first 2 purchased cassette tapes.  

1985 -- Started playing guitar.  This leads directly to Zep, Kansas, Hendrix, Rush, Purple, some Floyd, some Tull.  But I remember hearing "Roundabout" on the radio and just not getting it.  Kind of boring, jazzy (says me in 1985).

Local corporate classic rock station starts a new late night show.  They describe it as "free form, progressive FM".  I started staying up late with headphones on school nights.  Heard things like "ItCotKC", "Karn Evil9", "old" Genesis (Duke), Billy Thorpe, Uriah Heep...

I pick up "A Young Persons Guide to King Crimson" and begin to digest...

Started smoking pot.  Came home from school (baked) one day & heard "Roundabout".  ...OK...  It was like a veil was lifted & I could hear all that stuff.  Going on.  Epic.  Got way into Yes.  Did the sponge thing for a while but stuck mainly to the better known symphonic stuff.

BTW I actually got tired of being a stoner after a year or so but remained hooked on the strange music.

1992 -- Played some music I recorded for my brother.  He kind of pulled a face and says, "um, not bad, it's kind of... progressive".  I realize that's a general term for my kind of music.

1995 -- Discovered the Internet in college.  Did some searches (Netscape) on "Progressive Rock".  Found this thing called "Rock.Music.Progressive" on Usenet.  Also found the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock.  I am a long way from owning my own PC so, I print it out.  I mean I print the whole thing out.  At school.  20-30 pages at a time.  It's a phone book.

1996-97 -- Read the GEPR cover to cover.  Discovered online music sites like Wayward and M&M.  Developed a bit of a problem with the old credit card (no downloading music back then).  Bought a few bad prog CDs (and really, except for bad fusion, there's not much worse than bad prog).   But this is when it all kicked in.  Discovered some of the best stuff so far.  Anekdoten, Porcupine Tree, Univers Zero, Steve Hillage, Steve Tibbetts, Ozric Tentacles, Zappa, UK, Happy The Man, PFM...

Oops, turning into a memoir...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2010 at 11:26
Originally posted by The Wrinkler The Wrinkler wrote:

I notice a lot of people got into prog from Pink Floyd LOL
Yeah, Pink Floyd seems to be a gateway drug, eeh gateway band I mean... Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2010 at 23:03
I notice a lot of people got into prog from Pink Floyd LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2010 at 17:39
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
Easy to answer ...
 
NEVER!
 
Basically our house already had several thousands of lp's of classical music from the earliest you could conceive of, and by the time I had heard any of these I had already heard Stockhausen, Heinemman and other modern "composers", including Davies, Russell, and the Bartok's and Orff's.
 
And I was around during Sgt Peppers and Days of Future Passed and Their Satanic Majesties Request and the White Album and Abbey Road ... and by the time I heard Yes, Nektar, Jethro Tull, Fairport Convention,  and so many other things, none of this, absolutely NONE of this stuff was progressive.
 
All of it was done with musicians that wanted to break the constraints of "popular music" and the "3 minute song". And musicians that wanted a lot more satisfaction with music than ... just pop music! And many of these people did what they felt was right, for what they were doing and HOW they wanted to do it. It had nothing to do with some idealistic vision about "prog" ... Close to the Edge was not a hymn to "prog" and neither was "Echos" or "Atom Heart Mother" ... it was the expression as they saw fit with the feeling and expression of the time!
 
And last night I dreamt something else ... the sound effects things with Pink Floyd ... were not "incidental" ... in those days, a lot of the effects and setups for keyboards were not easy, and it took several moments to change them to get things done. ... voila ... sound effects in between songs. A year later they were setting up songs around the sound effects and in the middle of it. The following year, they had Dark Side of the Moon. And a couple of years later The Wall ...
 
And Hawkwind also did this later with a famous science fiction writer!
 
And so many other examples!
 
All of a sudden the creativity is actually the mother of all inventions ... necessity!  ... and 40 years later we call it "prog".
 
Weird ... I think Voltaire was right. History is the lie that is agreed on! Or was it Moliere?
A famous quote from Voltaire-"I may disagree,sir, with what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it!"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2010 at 17:09
Hi,
 
Easy to answer ...
 
NEVER!
 
Basically our house already had several thousands of lp's of classical music from the earliest you could conceive of, and by the time I had heard any of these I had already heard Stockhausen, Heinemman and other modern "composers", including Davies, Russell, and the Bartok's and Orff's.
 
And I was around during Sgt Peppers and Days of Future Passed and Their Satanic Majesties Request and the White Album and Abbey Road ... and by the time I heard Yes, Nektar, Jethro Tull, Fairport Convention,  and so many other things, none of this, absolutely NONE of this stuff was progressive.
 
All of it was done with musicians that wanted to break the constraints of "popular music" and the "3 minute song". And musicians that wanted a lot more satisfaction with music than ... just pop music! And many of these people did what they felt was right, for what they were doing and HOW they wanted to do it. It had nothing to do with some idealistic vision about "prog" ... Close to the Edge was not a hymn to "prog" and neither was "Echos" or "Atom Heart Mother" ... it was the expression as they saw fit with the feeling and expression of the time!
 
And last night I dreamt something else ... the sound effects things with Pink Floyd ... were not "incidental" ... in those days, a lot of the effects and setups for keyboards were not easy, and it took several moments to change them to get things done. ... voila ... sound effects in between songs. A year later they were setting up songs around the sound effects and in the middle of it. The following year, they had Dark Side of the Moon. And a couple of years later The Wall ...
 
And Hawkwind also did this later with a famous science fiction writer!
 
And so many other examples!
 
All of a sudden the creativity is actually the mother of all inventions ... necessity!  ... and 40 years later we call it "prog".
 
Weird ... I think Voltaire was right. History is the lie that is agreed on! Or was it Moliere?


Edited by moshkito - April 27 2010 at 17:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2010 at 14:28
In my teen years I was a big metal fan and had become familiar with some prog metal bands like Evergrey, Pain of Salvation and Ayreon. I wasn't a prog fan then, I hardly knew the term 'progressive'. Then, about four years ago, I was in a record store buying some cd's and trading in some mispurchases. I had seen the limited edition box thingy of Spock's Beard's Snow on the shelf and connected the name to Ayreon's The Last Man on Earth, which I really liked. At the counter I realised I had just enough money to buy Snow and, as a blind purchase, bought it. I absolutely fell in love with the album. I hardly listened to anything else for a month or so after buying it. My second SB cd was The Beard Is Out There and after hearing The Light there was no turning back. After SB came Transatlantic, The Flower Kings etc. Pretty soon I found this site, a discovery that has turned out to be a pretty expensive one...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2010 at 15:30
I kind of like to think I was vaccinated by prog...
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:58
first prog exposure was an atlantic 7 inch single with roundabout on the a side . and you andi full version !!!!! on the bside Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2010 at 14:54
a hat tip for mentioning dimple an absolute masterpiece . still listening to it today musically and lyrically stunning Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2010 at 05:31

The Beatles, Revolver; in my youth

Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon; in my older youth

Yes, The Yes Album, in my older and so of my youth!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2010 at 22:39

Queen "A Night @ the Opera" / 1975

Uriah Heep / "Best of "/ 1975

Styx / "Best of "/ 1975 (blue vinyl)

Rush / "All the World's a Stage"/ 1976
 
Then came ; Floyd ,Yes ,Saga ,Kansas ,Blue Oyster Cult ,Threshold .Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2010 at 17:37
I started listening, when i found a youtube channel, which got me into it as a 14 year old kid, i just turned 15.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2010 at 11:23
I think I can blame my oldest brother for getting me into prog. He was into Kansas, Pink Floyd and the like in his youth before he defected and went into listening to New Age stuff :) Traitor...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2010 at 02:01
For me it was when I was in high school. Some wise soul played PFM's "Celebration" over the PA one day and I was hooked! I started seeking out their albums, and the rest as they say is history
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 21:18
In 68 when I was 10. The Beatles of course. Pink Floyd after that was the mainstay. Then I got into Humble Pie, Foghat, Styx before Tommy Shaw, Chicago, ELP, Genesis, Gentle Giant, The Who and Tommy Bolin.
 
In the 70's it was Return to Forever, John McGlaughlin, Zappa, Armegeddon, Jean Luc Ponty, Weather Report and more Genesis, Rush, Kansas, Alan Parsons, Focus and fusion jazz.
 
I still play the vinyl all the time. Lately it is Porcupine Tree, NIN, Tool, Dreamtheater, Opeth, Translantic and Peter Gabriel.
 
Now that DVD and Blu Ray are here I listen to a lot of live shows in LPCM. The dynamics are just fantastic, the visuals make for good eye candy and convenience of just going to the PS3 and just push play.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 19:24
A few years ago, my friend played And You and I for me. It went on from there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2010 at 21:30
It was not sudden, it was gradual and incremental.  I'd have to say it started with the Beatles in the early 70's.  They were so different and experimental in their own sort of way. Then I heard 10538 by ELO.  ...and then I heard Suppers ready, and then the Musical Box and then the Lamb, and then... well you know the rest.  Genesis is what really got me.  It was not called prog back then.  You have to realize, DISCO was popular back then!  I can not think of a more boring period for a drummer.Dead  The true measure of greatness is the test of time.  Enough said!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2010 at 14:57
Originally posted by Paper Champion Paper Champion wrote:

It was the "Undercover Man" from VDGG's "Godbluff". At that time I was 7 or 8 years old. My father would like to play with me in my room and turn on his Matsush*ta Hi-fi system. Heh, I remember it clearly even after so many years. Ironically, VDGG which led me to discover prog, actually, are of no interest for me now.

 
You have me most curious now!  When one starts out with such challenging and adventurous music as VDGG at the age of 7 or 8, where do you go from there? 
 
What are you listening to these days?
 
You mentioned that VDGG are of "no interest" to you now.  Do you have a distaste for VDGG now or are you simply disinterested in them?  Are you simply over-familiar with their discography, or have you "moved on" to a preference for a different style of prog?
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