UK election televised debate!

harmonium.ro wrote: The Labour Party would definitely not be thought as a Right-oriented party in Eastern Europe. We do perceive the Centre-Left (Social Democracy), the Left (Socialism) and the extreme Left(s) all as Left. The shift towards (neo?)liberalism of many parties of the Left in Western Europe was indeed felt in the East too, but still we were educated to be partisans of the "true" Right

We only started to think in terms of left and right only in the past few years, but still, if you ask people on the street about ideologies, then doctrines and then policies they look at you like WTF(lute). They associate left and right with parties because of the discourse of the party elites, not policies. Reminds me of the inter-war period where policies were taken regardless of their left or right specific and regardless of the party in power.
I'm still amazed that some people, in this case lots of British, decide who to vote for based on policies. When will I see that happening over here?

I've always been of the opinion that you should vote for the local candidate who would be best suited to represent your views and will do the best for your local constituency in that big house up there in that there London place. More often that not that will mean voting for the candidate that also just happens to be a member of the party you prefer, but not always.

3 dimwits? I thought I voted for a political party, not an individual.

'Seek out a Bigger Picture' - the fall back position of the conspiracy theorist without the cogent argument in support

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.........sorry if you vote for 3 dimwits you deserve what you get...........seek out a bigger picture folks.

today the Russian Pressident Medvedev is in Norway on a State visit, that means i will sit in the coatch (sofa) and watch the news which fallows the event much like when Obama was in Norway.

and yes I have seen glimpses of the british Election debate (which is the first to be sent on television in Britain), it seem like Gordon Brown dosent manage live debates so well as the other two, he do not look comfortable on debate, he looks nervous.

Indeed, Dean.  I don't wish death on many people but she is one of them.

harmonium.ro wrote: Where I come from the Right is considered better than the Left "as a fact", but this because of the former communist regimes (the Left is really compromised back there). I now know things are of course much more nuanced and no policy is good or bad per se. Again where I come from Thatcher, Reagan and Kohl are regarded as great leaders so mentioning them works in a contrary way.  RE Bush, he was OK for me, except that he didn't seem very bright (but I don't judge politicians on that) and his only major problem I can think of was the war in Iraq (not the war itself, I am a fan of throwing dictators out of business, but of its opportunity in that context). So can anyone enlighten me?

Where I come from the Right is considered better than the Left "as a fact", but this because of the former communist regimes (the Left is really compromised back there). I now know things are of course much more nuanced and no policy is good or bad per se. Again where I come from Thatcher, Reagan and Kohl are regarded as great leaders so mentioning them works in a contrary way.  RE Bush, he was OK for me, except that he didn't seem very bright (but I don't judge politicians on that) and his only major problem I can think of was the war in Iraq (not the war itself, I am a fan of throwing dictators out of business, but of its opportunity in that context).
So can anyone enlighten me?


Edited by harmonium.ro - April 25 2010 at 17:13

akamaisondufromage wrote:   There is no general consent that the Tories are bad,  At the moment far from it I think.

I am referring to PA and the opinions from PA, like

James wrote: Actually, I'd disagree.  I think they're bad now too.  Not as bad as the Thatcher years but still bad.  They always will be.  Otherwise they wouldn't be right wing and wouldn't be the Conservatives.

Everyone says it's a fact and no one gives examples. Why would they be bad?


Edited by harmonium.ro - April 25 2010 at 16:56

[QUOTE=harmonium.ro]Two questions: what is a hung Parliament? and why would be the tories bad? I've seen only general consent that they'd be bad. Mind you, I'm not wanting to start a debate, I'm just asking out of curiosity. [/