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Negoba 
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 09:20 |
So as a guitar freak, this may sound wierd, but I haven't really heard as much Holdworth as I think I should. And nothing has ever really grabbed me. What albums to people suggest that I listen to so I can really hear him at his best and say "Well I've heard him and it is or isn't for me."
I have Soft Machine's Bundles, on which he's good but still doesn't truly grab me.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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tamijo
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 12:08 |
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I would dig into his work with Bruford on "One of a Kind"
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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tszirmay
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 12:12 |
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Jean-Luc Ponty's masterful Enigmatic Ocean is a great place to check out his work !
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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himtroy
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 17:32 |
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The album Bruford-Feels Good to Me is some great Holdsworth work. The Gong album Gazeuse is Alan Holdsworth absolutely destroying.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 17:35 |
Metal Fatigue by Holdsworth himself
Gazeuse! by Gong has some incredible guitar playing by Allan
Enigmatic Ocean by Jean-Luc Ponty has my favorites "duels" between guitar, violin and synth
I would say that Holdsworth's playing on Bundles is his least spectacular, the sound of his guitar on that album compared to the ones I mentioned are notably different.
The "famous" Prog supergroup, U.K., has Allan Holdsworth playing in their debut. If you want to check how Allan would sound in a Prog band, this is the perfect place.
Edited by The Quiet One - April 16 2010 at 17:36
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 18:20 |
 tamijo wrote:
I would dig into his work with Bruford on "One of a Kind" |
That or his solo album Road Games.
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 19:06 |
Negoba wrote:
So as a guitar freak, this may sound wierd, but I haven't really heard as much Holdworth as I think I should. And nothing has ever really grabbed me. What albums to people suggest that I listen to so I can really hear him at his best and say "Well I've heard him and it is or isn't for me."
I have Soft Machine's Bundles, on which he's good but still doesn't truly grab me. |
Bundles is a great live album but he hadn't fully developed his style yet.. if you'd prefer something a bit more guitar-oriented and accessible I'd say Secrets or Road Games.. if you like very complex and personal maybe something like Hard Hat Area or Wardenclyffe Tower, he's also a magnificent guest on k2's Book of the Dead and the Johansson Bros' Heavy Machinery
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 20:29 |
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No one's mentioned i.o.u. yet. I got to see him on that tour. He played at a really crappy punk club 688 in Atlanta. I got to meet the band and Allan after the concert. So maybe I'm a little prejudiced, but it's a good H album. I also like the Velvet Darkness album. Holdsworth didn't want the music released because it wasn't really finalized and I think I remember hearing he got screwed over on the whole deal.
Also possibly of interest to some, Gary Husband, who's worked with Allan as a drummer did a piano record of reconstructed covers of Holdsworth pieces. The Things You See.
Edited by Slartibartfast - April 16 2010 at 21:20
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 16 2010 at 20:30 |
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yes yes, i.o.u. is awesome, pretty difficult music to star with though but it is a great one, maybe my favorite
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 17 2010 at 07:28 |
As others have mentioned:
UK - UK
Bruford - Feels Good To Me
Bruford - One Of A Kind
Allan Holdsworth - Secrets
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Negoba
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Posted: April 17 2010 at 07:44 |
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Thanks, folks, I have some great ideas. I'll see if I can sample a few first and then buy a couple.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: April 17 2010 at 13:41 |
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hears some licks by Allan, something in the range of a 25 note rapid-fire arrpegio which absolutley astounded me. Wow, is this guy real good or what?
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assume the power 1586/14.3
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XunknownX
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Posted: April 17 2010 at 19:23 |
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: April 19 2010 at 17:18 |
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Check him out with Tony Williams Lifetime, especially the cut "Fred" on "Believe It".
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Negoba
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 09:20 |
I got Gazeuse and One of a Kind.
Gazeuse seems great so far. Very good fusion, lots of emotion. Holdsworth actually has a little fire.
One of a Kind is ok and Dave Stewart is pretty disappointing, and I love the guy. Very dated sound. Holdsworth is also starting to mellow out.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 09:29 |
Negoba wrote:
I got Gazeuse and One of a Kind.
Gazeuse seems great so far. Very good fusion, lots of emotion. Holdsworth actually has a little fire.
One of a Kind is ok and Dave Stewart is pretty disappointing, and I love the guy. Very dated sound. Holdsworth is also starting to mellow out. |
Those two are great albums for me. Got to see Bruford live on the One Of A Kind tour at the Atlanta Agora. I was too young to be there as it was an alcohol serving club. Might be why it doesn't sound dated to me. Stewart on Khan on the other hand... 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Negoba
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 10:01 |
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I love Stewart on Khan. Same thing, that period was before my time so the key sounds are more classic than cheesy. By 1979, I remember hearing those key sounds everywhere. I'm sure seeing that live would have been mindblowing. All four musicians are masters, maybe my expectations were a little too high.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 10:13 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Negoba wrote:
I got Gazeuse and One of a Kind.
Gazeuse seems great so far. Very good fusion, lots of emotion. Holdsworth actually has a little fire.
One of a Kind is ok and Dave Stewart is pretty disappointing, and I love the guy. Very dated sound. Holdsworth is also starting to mellow out. |
Those two are great albums for me. Got to see Bruford live on the One Of A Kind tour at the Atlanta Agora. I was too young to be there as it was an alcohol serving club. Might be why it doesn't sound dated to me. Stewart on Khan on the other hand...
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Unfortunately, Allan wasn't in the band anymore at that point. The "Unknown" John Clarke had replaced him.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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b_olariu
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 10:17 |
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Metal fatigue - 1985 from his solo stuff , and on One of a kind from Bill Bruford solo
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esky
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Posted: April 22 2010 at 14:36 |
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The Bruford albums he's on and Enigmatic Ocean. Sorry to say I still haven't seen him live but he'll play a once-in-a-blue-moon gig at a place called the Baked Potato in Hollywood every so often if you can make it out this way.
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