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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2010 at 09:10
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by Kojak Kojak wrote:

Is a lot of this stuff quite difficult to get hold of...? I'll be in Italy next month, is it easy to come by over there?


Hi Kojak, in my experience, a good deal of RPI is available via the vendors on the RPI genre page.  Of course some do go out of print for periods and then it's Ebay time.  As to the brick and mortar stores in Italy, I don't know, but I would guess the big cities have stores that sell prog.  But *most* items can be found online if unless they are temporarily OOP. 





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2010 at 16:12
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Paul, I'm surprised that title is OOP, you would think the more popular ones would be around.  I'm sure a juicy mini will happen eventuallyWink
 
I know Jim, for such a classic to be out of print is a real shame. Fortunately I picked up a copy on ebay a few months back. Strange thing is you can get it on vinyl from BTF but not cd.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2010 at 11:17
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:




Paul, I'm surprised that title is OOP, you would think the more popular ones would be around.  I'm sure a juicy mini will happen eventuallyWink
 
I know Jim, for such a classic to be out of print is a real shame. Fortunately I picked up a copy on ebay a few months back. Strange thing is you can get it on vinyl from BTF but not cd.
 
Paul, the fact that the vinyl is available is usually a clue that the mini lp CD is coming soon--unless, of course, the vinyl has been available for a long time now and they only have a few left.  But they'll never look down on making a buck, so surely that will be reissued.
 
I was mistaken in my information about Museo Rosenbach being included in the Celeste boxset--I was initially told it would be a set based around Il Sistema, which gave rise to both Celeste and Museo, as well as to later Perrino projects SNC and St Tropez.  However, the boxset is based on Celeste and includes Celeste's two albums (sort of--not all of Second is included, but some other tracks are), Il Sistema, and St. Tropez.  So we can only hope a new edition of Museo is pending!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2010 at 11:18
^^^ ACR, those are some great Banco reviews!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2010 at 11:21
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

^^^ ACR, those are some great Banco reviews!
gthanks Finn and Todd for the encouragement
 
A LOT of work went into them, I actually had two draft versions and then changed it again when i posted them. Love those albums so i thought they deserved some real thought and effort.
 
A one star review would be a different matter of course. I havent heard a one star RPI yet though I am sure they are out there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2010 at 20:04
Vault pick of the day.  NOT for the faint of heart, this group.  Wink

 La Follia Del Mimo Di Fuoco by OFFICINA MECCANICA album cover Boxset/Compilation, 2007
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Officina Meccanica Rock Progressivo Italiano

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4 stars A fabulous adventure! This album definitely falls in the category of adventurous RPI -- Semiramis, Balletto di Bronzo, Osanna, Cervello, and most particularly for OM Rocky's Filj. Officina Mecchanica is a varied, wild experience, one that takes you from pastoral scenes to the harder edge of RPI, often in a very short time and within the same song. There is a definite theatric emphasis, particulary in the vocals, as discussed in the wonderful bio written by Jim Russell. The music relies on a very tight, excellent rhythm section to propel the pieces along, particular during the standard mid section which picks up the tempo, often introducing a memorable hook carried and repeated by the bass or often guitar. The musical atmosphere is rounded out by brass, with a variety of saxophones and trumpets, and sometimes a flute--also very tight! The guitar shifts from rhythm to solo, sometimes helping to create a mood with wonderful, somewhat jazzy chords, other times leading out with excellent solos. Like Rocky's Filj, keyboards don't really play a role in OM. (Yes, there are some, but when they appear they are brief and only serve to play a short melody, one that could easily have been covered by brass or guitar--this is definitely not keyboard-driven rock!)

The overall tone of the album shifts from the more mellow studio pieces to the wilder, less restrained live numbers. There are three studio and five songs. The live numbers serve to demonstrate their excellent musicianship--it's clear that this was a very talented band. The more adventurous vocals are also reserved for the live pieces. The one live song that falls in the mellow camp is the bonus track, a beautiful ballad entitled Angelo. All of the songs feature memorable melodies (archetypical RPI), but the studio pieces really emphasize this aspect of their music. The songs tend to be fairly schizophrenic, alternating between more subdued passages and wild, often catchy sections.

Overall, as stated elsewhere by Jim Russell, this band is every bit as important as some of those mentioned above. I can only imagine what they could have become with a studio album or two under their belt--or especially with a whole live album! This overdue, posthumous compilation is not to be missed. Definitely not for the faint of heart or those who fatigue with repeated listening, for that's what it takes to uncover all the facets of this wonderful RPI gem. Bravo!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 08:26
^ Ha ha.... you're not kidding Jim. One that I have to be the right frame of mind for but it does have some rewarding moments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 09:35
Sounds great - where do I get this?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 13:17
^ Try here Scott, you might find the postage expensive to Australia though. Better order a few others to make the post more cost effective. Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 18:35
Friends, please visit fellow blogger John's Italian Prog blog, and vote in his poll for the Best Italian Prog Guitarist!  On the left side of page, click here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 21:30
I've recently been getting into Le Orme and I'm already a big fan of Felona E Serona.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 21:33
Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

I've recently been getting into Le Orme and I'm already a big fan of Felona E Serona.


Warning Will, run now if you enjoy money.  If you catch the RPI bug you will redefine the phrase disposable income.  At least I did.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 21:52
Introducing one of our recent additions to the sub.  Sort of a milder version of the Officina Meccanica trip, a big and bold experiment of Italian rock and "big band."  Loved it. 

 Una Favola Vera by NICOSIA &amp; C. INDUSTRIA MUSICALE album   cover Studio Album, 1973
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Nicosia & C. Industria Musicale Rock Progressivo Italiano

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— First review of this album —
4 stars Fantastic, unconventional "big-band" RPI

What a treat! Nicosia & C Industria Musicale is the overly long name of this unique RPI entry whose roots began I believe in the 1960s, as part of a working quartet led by Leo Loris. When Loris split for a music business job the members of the group began assembling what would become Nicosia, the name of their guitarist Nuccio Nicosia. They spent a very fruitful summer working on material and playing, inspired by the counterculture and the changes occurring in the music scene. In 1971 the band became realized with the addition of an 8-piece brass section. By 1972 the group settled with 12 members, the standard 5-piece line-up plus a supercharged 7-piece heavy brass section. The members brought with them a variety of musical backgrounds in the hope of creating a grand project, and they largely succeeded. In 1973 they released their only album on Fonit, the heady "Una Favola Vera." 1975 saw the release of one further single but unfortunately Nicosia & C would be fated as yet another Italian one-shot band.

"Una Favola Vera" is an intoxicating album which takes a somewhat typical line-up of vocals/guitar/keyboards/bass/drums and blasts it with a heavy brass section, with the mission to create something big and bold. The band members were engaged in spirited conversations about life and art, and the album's themes reflect some of the social turbulence of the time. "We were all immersed in a strange subconscious philosophy, trying to outrun the dualism between spirit and matter." While ItalianProg.com describes the RPI/Big Band sound as measures of Chicago, Blood/Sweat/Tears, and Napoli Centrale, my own description would be "reduced-calorie Officina Meccanica!" The rock band portion of the sound is not quite as aggressive, the vocals not quite as provocative, and the horns more smooth than in-your-face. Officina Meccanica had a more adventurous proginess to their longer jams as well. But that is not to dismiss Nicosia & C in any way. I very much enjoyed this outlandish musical ride. And in fact they may appeal more to those who found Officina Meccanica to be a bit "over the top" as there is more accessible melody here.

The tracks are a feast for the musical senses, full of life, variety, and great playing. The songs are only in the 3-7 minute range but this is perfect for the blend of catchy songwriting and playing going on. Half the tracks have decent Italian vocals while the other half are instrumental. Sometimes the band can sound like Sinatra's "swinging" era backing band on steroids (or psychedelics) while other times the more traditional RPI/rock arrangements are employed. Always a very good balance is maintained between the imposing brass section and the other players---this is not easy as brass can be harsh, but I never found them to be overpowering. Instead, they come and go giving support to wonderful softer sections, with acoustic guitars and gentle flutes, or to more driving jazzy rock sections. There are occasional rocking sections that groove with funky, yes, funky, electric guitars, organ, and sax. The bass is solid and the horn players are very good, producing music that feels nicely layered and well developed. Sometimes the feel can veer into what sounds like the theme to some 60s spy show, or 70s cop show. Other times they will go for lovely and nostalgic melody like the piano and strings opening "Paradiso e Casa Mia." There are some moments where the vocals get downright nuts with theatrical wildness. The keys are fantastic referees to the whole affair, supplying ample runs of organ and piano to hold everything together nicely. I can imagine some people listening to Nicosia and saying "this ain't RPI!" but they'd be way wrong. Not all RPI sounds like Orme and PFM folks, and this is only one example of variable flavors of the subgenre. You could compare Nicosia as perhaps a cross between Officina Meccanica and Chicago as they possess the RPI flair of the former, with the pop sensibilities and sunshine of the latter. Great soft-prog arrangements and loads of melodic Italian pop/rock songwriting are "shaken and stirred" by the "big band" element, then served up by the masterful barkeep that was the year 1972, when such an experiment was approached with joyful enthusiasm rather than cynicism. The result is an album that is all about what I listen to music for. This is not the greatest prog of all time; it is not even the greatest RPI album by a long shot. But it is a fantastic, grooving, perhaps naïve burst of energy and style that is an instant favorite for me, an album that will give me joy for many years. I get rid of a good percentage of the music I acquire; I can assure you I won't be losing Nicosia & C.

The AMS/BTF reissued CD is one of those delightful gatefold mini-lp sleeve editions. The sound quality is very good for 1972, great care was taken in the production of this work. The 8-page booklet contains some photos and liner notes but was a bit scant for my taste. This is such a lovely album I would have enjoyed reading much more, from all of the main participants. Two very good bonus tracks with equally good sound are included, boosting the value of the album by another 10 minutes. This is not an essential RPI title, and it is not a representative RPI title, but it is a fabulous and unique treat for those of us who look for something a little different. It exudes the spirit of the time and I recommend it heartily to RPI fans who enjoy horns.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2010 at 18:48
A true esoteric, atmospheric gem for the vault pick today.  A must for fans of "dreamy" music. 

 Il Paese dei Balocchi by PAESE DEI BALOCCHI, IL album cover Studio Album, 1972
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Il Paese dei Balocchi Rock Progressivo Italiano

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4 stars Truly, a musical revelation to me at so many levels. Like it's happened to so many other bands out there, it took IL PAESE DEI BALOCCHI only one single production during their short lyrical career to be reminded of. This 1972 album is certainly one of those overseen gems that remain constant over the decades and which enchantment lasts forever. For the purity of its wholeness, I can tell of majestic and virtuous minds crafting such a wonder. Inexplicably how, the record has it all: surprising evolution in its composition and progressiveness, captivating argumentation all along its musical arrangement and a certain blend within the passages and movements that in spite its closeness to the sound of well-known iconic bands, happen to have a sincere uniqueness. And finally regarding the mere context of the album even though it's not a concept one, all the songs are strangely linked together by a thin instrumental line that uncovers this sort of mystical perception.

The record ignites so anxiously violent through the storming sound of drums and keyboards that suddenly get cut off the scene by this set of ravishing strings leading on the first ear-impression to a deep, dark passage just to retake from the beginning and explode all over again. Simply indescribable. Out of first listen, I surrendered before my weakness for delicate keyboards and thus, Armando PAONE won a chapter from that inner battle that goes inside my head.

I'm still incapable to describe what I listened in here. Yes, it's got the Italian Symphonic wit and heart, but any possible comparisons were and are nothing to me until today that I'm typing this down in order for me to detail a full landscape of comprehension. What I do know, is that sometimes it's not necessary for a song to run for over twenty minutes to caught ones expectation that waits uneasy to burst into a flame of emotiveness. I got to felt that within brief seconds that hardly turned into a minute and I'm talking about "Canzone Della Verità" which for the common ear could be just a prelude for the upcoming track on the album but I believe it's indeed an overlooked excerpt of joy and passion necessary to put together the whole conception.

Completely, a mood swinger. It has the ability to make you cry your eyes out and the power to turn you into a fearful, helpless soul due its obscure, evocative sound. If there's anything I could point out as a musical shortcoming on the album, would be the last couple of songs, "Fantasia E Poesia" and "Amore Per Gioco" that honestly, don't suit the ambiance I just tried to detail for you all and that's why I'm giving it the almost perfect rating. Nevertheless, it's a great addition to your collection, that's for sure.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2010 at 18:57
That reminds me, bump...

Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:


I'm becoming fascinated by the Il Paese dei Balocchi album.  I glimpse some of the things going on in the lyrical theme, knowing the English equivalents of certain words, but not nearly enough for my liking. 

Would someone who is either native Italian or well versed in the language please translate the album's track titles into English for me?  I, and I'm sure others, would be much obliged to have this.  Also to have deeper comment on the content of the tracks, if you care to take the time, would be excellent.  In other words, what are they saying in this record?  It seems to me to be a Pessimistic theme (in the sense of that branch of philosophy).  Being a philosophical Pessimist myself, and understanding spurts of the language, I'm liking this album's tema already from what I can tell of it.


Il Paese dei Balocchi
1. Il trionfo dell'egoismo, della violenza, della presunazione e dell'infifferenza (2:34)
2. Impotenza dell'umiltà della rassegnazione (4:09)
3. Canzone della speranza (3:55)
4. Evasione (7:40)
5. Hidden song (3:34)
5. Risveglio e visione del paese dei balocchi (4:40)
6. Ingresso e incontro con i Baloccanti (2:00)
7. Canzone della verità (0:45)
8. Narcisismo della perfezione (1:01)
9. Verità dell'intuizione fantastica (6:56)
10. Ritorno alla condizione umana (4:18)


[Question: in track one, is that supposed to be "indifferenza"?  Any other typos?]


Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 01:02
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

That reminds me, bump...

Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:


I'm becoming fascinated by the Il Paese dei Balocchi album.  I glimpse some of the things going on in the lyrical theme, knowing the English equivalents of certain words, but not nearly enough for my liking. 

Would someone who is either native Italian or well versed in the language please translate the album's track titles into English for me?  I, and I'm sure others, would be much obliged to have this.  Also to have deeper comment on the content of the tracks, if you care to take the time, would be excellent.  In other words, what are they saying in this record?  It seems to me to be a Pessimistic theme (in the sense of that branch of philosophy).  Being a philosophical Pessimist myself, and understanding spurts of the language, I'm liking this album's tema already from what I can tell of it.


Il Paese dei Balocchi
1. Il trionfo dell'egoismo, della violenza, della presunazione e dell'infifferenza (2:34)
2. Impotenza dell'umiltà della rassegnazione (4:09)
3. Canzone della speranza (3:55)
4. Evasione (7:40)
5. Hidden song (3:34)
5. Risveglio e visione del paese dei balocchi (4:40)
6. Ingresso e incontro con i Baloccanti (2:00)
7. Canzone della verità (0:45)
8. Narcisismo della perfezione (1:01)
9. Verità dell'intuizione fantastica (6:56)
10. Ritorno alla condizione umana (4:18)


[Question: in track one, is that supposed to be "indifferenza"?  Any other typos?]




Hi American Khatru,

in track one the right sentence is: Il trionfo dell'egoismo, della violenza, della presunzione e dell'indifferenza (2:34)

i am native Italian but, unfortunately, not  so incredible in english! But I'll try:

The Toyland
1. The triumph of selfishness, violence, arrogance and indifference (2:34)
2. Impotence of humility of resignation (4:09)
3. Song of Hope (3:55)
4. Escape (7:40)
5. Hidden Song (3:34)
5. Awakening and vision of Toyland (4:40)
6. Entrance and meeting with Baloccanti (2:00) (Baloccanti are the Toyland "workers")
7. Song of the truth (0:45)
8. Narcissism of Perfection (1:01)
9. Truth of the fantastic intuition (6:56)
10. Back to the human condition (4:18)

I hope it can be useful in such a way...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 02:52

Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

I've recently been getting into Le Orme and I'm already a big fan of Felona E Serona.


Well, I've recently been getting into Latte E Miele, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, and Maxophone.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 04:01
I have discovered this great cd that will be next to my top 5 italian cd's.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 09:11

^ That's a great album, one of my favourite's of 2008.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2010 at 10:38
^ Beautiful classic cover.  I'll have to check that one out!

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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